What is sadqa-e-jaaria?
If a muslim builds a mosque or a school, it is often said that this will result in “sadqa-e-jaaria” (continuous good deeds) as long as the place is populated.
Does it mean that good deeds continue to be added to that person’s account even after he/she is dead?
Re: Sadqa-e-Jaaria
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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
What is sadqa-e-jaaria?
If a muslim builds a mosque or a school, it is often said that this will result in "sadqa-e-jaaria" (continuous good deeds) as long as the place is populated.
*Does it mean that good deeds continue to be added to that person's account even after he/she is dead? *
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Yes...there are hadiths confirming the statement.....i hope some one will provide them soon....
Re: Sadqa-e-Jaaria
There are so many things which comes under Sadqaa-e-Jaaria…
The original proven from Hadees are
If we believe the deed are stopped sending sawaab to a death of person… is somehow wrong according to Sadqai-e-Jaaria…
Once Prophet Muhammad :saw: was passing from a graveyard… once passing through a grave he stopped and then he took a green branch of a tree and plant that onto the grave, for explanation from his companions, he said ‘Until this branch is green… the person in the grave will not face azaab-e-qabar’
It was a good deed for that person and that saved hm for a while from azaab-e-Qabar…
We must do sadqa-e-jaaria in any form these days…
To help poor
To teach any poor person for free
To give religious education
To convert any person to Muslim
To build or have contribution in making school, Masjid, orphan house, gardens, parks, roads, or any thing which will facilitate to people no matter they are Muslim or not!
The most important Sadqa-e-Jaria which every one can do is to give the best education to their children…manner and religious teaching, make them best Muslim and person!
This is also one kind of Sadqa-eJariaa…
Thats what I thought too. Thanks.
But then I am curious, where did the concept start that as soon as a person is dead, the "book is closed"? To me, it seems clear that the book is certainly not closed and the person can benefit from the good deeds he has done in his life.
I think this is the first step to understanding the concept of "isaal-e-sawaab".
More over when we make dua after Azaan…we do pray to Allah for Prophet Muhammad :saw: as (contd: ) ‘…wa’darajat-ur-rafeea, warzuqina shafat-hoo yom al qayama’t…
In this dua we are asking to Allah to place Muhammad :saw: on a highest place to which HE has promised so that Prphet can do shafaa’t for us!
(Indeed Prophet (saw) is already on the highest place but we are suppose to make dua for ourself )
In this dua Prophet (saw) is not in this but we do dua!..
Second example is Durood Ibrahimi, in which we pray for souls of dead!
Deed are stopped only in case done person byself!..period!
After we are dead we can not do anything for our self!..
But only Sawaab e Jaaria !!! we will be receiving which may be in any form…it may be the form of dua which people do for a diseased person!
Book is closed for any action done by the person by self!
i think the concept of isaal-e-sawaab is taking this 'book remains open' notion a little too far. consider this hypothetical example:
a politician with a cult/fanatic following ... dies. lets say what we've heard about his deeds/sins is true and that makes him a sureshot hell dweller. however, his followers organize all those isaal-e-sawaab gatherings, he's been prayed for in jumma prayers, shah faisal mosque and places all over the world. you think that would help? or should it help? what people generally gather from isaal-e-sawaab are actions that are often not even connected to islam for example building tombs, decoration of graves, the rose water spray (funny), quran-khuwanis (i dont think what you get from reading and understanding of quran is transferable), etc. plus, ive seen people paying molanas to send hafiz children for such events, an uncle of mine hired a molana to pray (or act out) all the salats his dead father missed ... u see the point.
i think the book o' deeds does remain open but the access and manipulation is not permeable freely. sadqa-e-jaria is one way to help out the deceased but its limited to the children and wives. what muslims can do for someone is, at most: make dua for his maghfirat. sawaab is like money ... i wouldn't want anybody have my sawaab unless i know for a fact that i am a sawaab billionaire.
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i think the concept of isaal-e-sawaab is taking this 'book remains open' notion a little too far. consider this hypothetical example:
i think the book o' deeds does remain open but the access and manipulation is not permeable freely. sadqa-e-jaria is one way to help out the deceased but** its limited to the children and wives. what muslims can do for someone is, at most: make dua for his maghfirat. sawaab is like money ... i wouldn't want anybody have my sawaab unless i know for a fact that i am a sawaab billionaire.**
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first of all its nice to have u on the forum ...
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i dont agree with u on the bold part ....
sadqa e jaria is not limited to family.....kion kay pohir un logon ka kia ho ga jin ka ki nahin hay......according to me any one can isa e sawab to other..students are sadq a e jaaria for thier teacher ..it is in hadith that if some one embraces islam or starts good deeds on dawah of some muslim ..muslim who gave dawah will get reward of all the good acts the other person did.....without reducing any sawab of the person who did the deed...
besides it is also worth noting that ......like good deeds bad deeds also accrue after some ones death..like in case of habil and qabil ....qabil will get the share of gunnah for every killing made till qayamah....
Interesting points so far, however, not convincing. In the case of Hadith quoted by ? (First he did not provide the actual hadith, no refrences etc), but lest assume it is true. Did prophet :saw: say that because he moved the branch? If it was someone else may be the person will not be sheltered from the Azab.
Shafat concept, please remember that it will be allowed only if Allah asks/permit Prophet:saw:. Concept that he will ask on his own is not correct. NO one, speaks to Allah unless spoken to or asked, yes that includes Prophet Muhammad:Saw:.
Have you guys not read the ayas where Allah has repeatedly warned us that (paraphrasing) on the day of judgement people will ask O Allah give me one more chance so I can change my deeds and follow your rules, but they will be told that you had your chance in the “life” you were given.
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first of all its nice to have u on the forum ...
now..
i dont agree with u on the bold part ....
sadqa e jaria is not limited to family.....kion kay pohir un logon ka kia ho ga jin ka ki nahin hay......according to me any one can isa e sawab to other..students are sadq a e jaaria for thier teacher ..it is in hadith that if some one embraces islam or starts good deeds on dawah of some muslim ..muslim who gave dawah will get reward of all the good acts the other person did.....without reducing any sawab of the person who did the deed...
besides it is also worth noting that ......like good deeds bad deeds also accrue after some ones death..like in case of habil and qabil ....qabil will get the share of gunnah for every killing made till qayamah....
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well you are right ... i have this problem of shortlisting examples to stay brief and on topic. however, student-teacher, parent-children, orphan-caregiver etc. are examples of direct influence and thus merit some sort of payback deeds later in time. but the belief in the core concept of isaal sawaab warrants many out of the place practices few of which i mentioned in the earlier post.
qabil getting a share of gunnah for every sin till qayammah ... honestly i didnt know about it. what about those who kill in the name of god? does he get charged on both kinds of killings? to me, thats more like stretching things afar.
can we say sadqa jaria is valid for direct relationships only. so that the mainstream definition of isaal e sawaab does not apply?
^interesting topic....so what is the conclusion?
Also, i wanted to ask out something.
Some people in pakistan say that whatever good and bad i do in this world, (if my dad passed away) he would get the sawaab or azaab in his grave?
So if i do anything sinful, will my forefathers be paying for it in the graves? If that's so then, if i do good things, then they will be getting sawab in their graves?
Is there any references from Quran or hadith on this matter?
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Not that I think any one necessarily needs to be convinced here, cz its all a matter of faith. Allah hidayat day ga tau khud hi samajh jayein gay (goes for everyone actually, including me :))
Yes. So? I am afraid I am not sure what your point is. From where I see, it is primarily our responsibility to do good deeds in this world, to be successful and admitted to jannah. Shafaat, and how it will be done is the last stand.
That is true, however, you see there will be a big shift when the Day of Judgement is announced. What you are talking about is when Saur-e-Israfeel has sounded and the whole world is gone. Now if someone wants to come back and do good deeds… too late. No one disagrees, as its in the Quran (as you say).
However, the difference is that in your view, a person’s book of deeds is closed as soon as he dies. In my view, thats not true. Good deeds done in this world (including those that result in Sadqa-e-Jaaria) do continue to add on to your good deeds even after you die. Deeds of your children, good or bad, also reflect upon you, because it reflects upon the training you did for your children. If your child turns out to be a Haafiz-ul-Quraan, you get good deeds for that, even if you have died. But all these will stop once the Day of Judgement begins.
Then again, as I said, these are matters of belief (aqeeda). I believe in them, you don’t. Thats fine. The aim is just to present what I believe in, just as you have presented (or will) what you believe in. Its all educational. 
well said faisal :)
thanks for the 411