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January 27, 2014, 6:00am
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Re: Sad state of Muslims today
Finally, if we get into this blame game and who tampers with what then I too can accuse the website alahazarat
Hafidhh Ibn Kathir writes:
“Imam Qurtubi writes: The angels present the actions of the Ummah to the Prophet [May Allah bless him and grant him peace] every single day. This is not correct, but the truth is that the actions of the Ummah are presented not every day but every Friday. [Tafsir Ibn Kathir Surah Al-Nisa’a under verse 41]”
Apparently they do not know how to translate. Here is the full text in Ibn Katheer
وأما ما ذكره أبو عبد الله القرطبي في " التذكرة " حيث قال : باب ما جاء في شهادة النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم على أمته : قال : أخبرنا ابن المبارك ، أخبرنا رجل من الأنصار ، عن المنهال بن عمرو ، حدثه أنه سمع سعيد بن المسيب يقول : ليس من يوم إلا تعرض على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أمته غدوة وعشية ، فيعرفهم بأسمائهم وأعمالهم ، فلذلك يشهد عليهم ، يقول الله تعالى : ( فكيف إذا جئنا من كل أمة بشهيد وجئنا بك على هؤلاء شهيدا ) فإنه أثر ، وفيه انقطاع ، فإن فيه رجلا مبهما لم يسم ، وهو من كلام سعيد بن المسيب لم يرفعه . وقد قبله القرطبي فقال بعد إيراده : قد تقدم ] أن الأعمال تعرض على الله كل يوم اثنين وخميس ، وعلى الأنبياء والآباء والأمهات يوم الجمعة . قال : ولا تعارض ، فإنه يحتمل أن يخص نبينا بما يعرض عليه كل يوم ، ويوم الجمعة مع الأنبياء ، عليهم السلام.
*And as for that which Qurtubi has mentioned in Al-tazkira where he said The chapter of what has come regarding the witnessing of the Prophet (PBUH) over his Ummah. He said Ibn Mubbarak informed us that a man from the Ansar informed us on the authority of المنهال بن عمرو who heard سعيد بن المسيب saying There is not a day except that the (actions) of the Ummah are laid open before the Prophet (PBUH) morning and evening. Then he recognizes them by means of their names and deeds and because of that he bears witness over them. Allah says ‘And how when we bring from every Ummah a Shaheed and we bring you over these as a witness.’
For it is a narration and in it is Inqitaa’ because there is a man in it who is obscure because he is not named. And this is from the Kalaam (saying) of سعيد بن المسيب . And Qurtubi has accepted it and said after citing it.
It has passed (been mentioned previously) that the deeds are laid open before Allah every Monday and Thursday and before the Prophets and fathers and mothers every friday. He said, there is no Ta’aarad (conflict), For it is possible that our Prophet (PBUH) is special in respect to that which is laid open before him every day and on the day of Friday along with the Prophets.*
Is is clear he didn’t say “this is not correct” anywhere in that. He said it was a Munqati’ narration and thus from the saying of سعيد بن المسيب
So tampering from the Bralwis?
See why this blame game is so dangerous and needs to stop from all corners.
By the way wvroom also note how Ibn Kathir (who was not a Salafi) verified the Narration which reached him. So ponder over your statement in which you accused the Salafis of inventing this new rule!
Brother ZeeshanParvez
The problem with the Salafi manhaj is that is too onerous and grinds everything to a halt … the default position is skepticism and distrust … not all people can source their own evidences and not all people can understand what they have been able to source. It is for this reason that ulema are here.
In your post number 55 of this thread there is a statement that actually favours taqlid …
**You are more knowledgeable than me in respect to Hadith and its chain of narrators so when a Hadith is Authentic then inform me of it whichever thing it may be Basari or Kufi or Shami so that I may go toward it when it be Authentic.
**Here the statement “then inform me of it” is the trust that the narrator of this is giving to his respected counterpart. In other words his form of verification of the authenticity is not to do the actual work - but to trust in the work undertaken by the “expert” to tell him what is or is not authentic.