Sad state of Muslims today

Re: Sad state of Muslims today

Zeeshan, the checking and verification of the positions of the four schools was done after the initial Imams had passed away. So the schools you have today have legitimate positions that are checked and verified at least by the scholars who followed, if not also approved as legitimate positions by the other schools

I do not know what books you have been reading, I can see what they want to portray but be careful. If anyone ever tries to make the Muslims look as fools we can be assured that we are the fools but we know not. This principle applies to me as well as you, unfortunately the Salafi movement is based on making ordinary Muslims to look as fools. It is very attractive to take your chair (and stand on it) and judge the people through what you have prepared as a humiliation for them, by means of making new rules (such as Hadith authentication), definitions (such as Bidah) and manhajs (a watered down (easier to follow) version of the religion of Najdiyah movement.)

Don’t take the chair brother, stand with us on low ground and yes we will look up at our Beloved Messenger Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa Sallam on his pulpit through his Blessed hadiths

The Prophet peace and blessings upon him and his family has more right over us then that, this principle is built into the Islam of Ahlus Sunnah. Qiyas is only required for areas which are not clarified by Quran, Sunnah or Ijma

I’ll show an example of what i believe is another example of Salafi tampering. The movement which says it follows the Companions Radiallahu anh is actually refuting some Islamic principles. Our Ummah has always been Tabarruk hungry, like dribbling from the mouth hungry, say eww if you want but that is the truth and I am gearing myself to be Tabarruk hungry. Here is Ibn Umar RA seeking Tabaruk from places that RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa Sallam prayed at:

Sahih Al-Bukhari Salafi translation:
Narrated Hadith is about the various places on the way from Medina to Mecca where the Prophet prayed and their In locations impossible to translate. (Book #8](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=8&translator=1&start=0&number=471), Hadith #471](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=8&translator=1&start=0&number=471#471))

Ustadha Aisha Bewley (sufi) has had no problems:

""It is related from 'Abdullah that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to stop at Dhu’l-Hulayfa when he performed* 'umra or hajj under an acacia tree at the spot where the mosque is located at Dhu’l-Hulayfa. When he returned from an expedition or was coming from hajj or 'umra and was on that road, he came down along the riverbed and emerged from it and would make his camel kneel at the dip which is on the eastern side of the riverbed. He stayed there until morning, not at the mosque which is by the rocks nor on the hill with the mosque on it. There was a water channel there, where 'Abdullah prayed, with sand heaps in it. The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to pray there. The floodwater drove the pebbles down until the place where 'Abdullah used to pray was buried.
‘Abdullah related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, prayed at the site of the small mosque which is below the mosque at the hill at ar-Rawha’. 'Abdullah knew the place where the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had prayed. He said, “It is on your right when you are standing in prayer in the mosque.” That mosque is on the right hand side of the road when you are going to Makka, a stone’s throw or thereabouts from the largest mosque.
Ibn ‘Umar used to pray towards the small mountain which is at the end of ar-Rawha’. That mountain ends at the side of the road near the mosque, between it and al-Munsaraf when you are going to Makka. A mosque was built there. 'Abdullah did not pray in that mosque. He left it to his left and behind him. He prayed in front of it towards the mountain itself. ‘Abdullah came back from ar-Rawha’ and did not pray Dhuhr until he came to that place where he prayed. If he was coming from Makka and passed by it an hour before Subh or at the end of the night, he stopped until he could pray Subh there.
'Abdullah related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to alight under a large thornless tree below ar-Ruwaytha on the right hand side of the road, facing the road in a wide level place and go on until he emerged from the small hill about two miles below the road of ar-Ruwaytha. The top of it is broken and inclines inward. It stands on a flat place where there are many sand-dunes.
'Abdullah related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, prayed at the end of the upper part of the valley behind al-'Arj if you are on the way to Hadba. There are two or three graves at that mosque, on which are piles of stones, to the right of the path at the large stones marking the path. 'Abdullah used to return home from al-'Arj after the sun had declined from midday. He would pray Dhuhr in that mosque.
'Abdullah ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, alighted at the thornless trees at the left of the road in the river bed below Harsha. That slope joined the foot of Harsha about a bows-shot from the road. 'Abdullah used to pray at the thornless tree which was nearest the road. It was the tallest of them.
'Abdullah ibn 'Umar related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to alight at the slope which was closer to Marr az-Zahran towards Madina where it descends from the small valleys. He would alight on the flat of that slope to the left of the road when you are going to Makka. There is only a stone’s throw between where the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, alighted and the road.
'Abdullah ibn 'Umar related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to alight at Dhu Tuwa and spent the night there until morning when he would pray Subh when he was going to Makka. The place where the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace,
prayed was a great mound which is not inside the mosque which was built there, but is lower down.
'Abdullah related that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, faced the two gaps in the mountain between him and the tall mountain towards the Ka’ba. He put the mosque that was built to the left of the mosque at the end of the mound. The place where the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, prayed was lower than it, on the black mound located ten cubits or thereabouts from the other mound. He prayed there facing the two gaps in the mountain between him and the Ka’ba. “”

…and if you say this can not be translated then we will have to look at possibility of us having lost Islam

By hiding this aspect of Islam they can deny some softer aspects of Islam, and to propagate a hardline religion in its place targeting the English speaking Layman. In my opinion their summary of the matter is:* the one who goes there to worship Allaah and draw closer to Him should be denounced (ibn uthaymeen)
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…and they derive their inspiration from Ibn Taymiyah who said as quoted by Islamqa :

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to visiting mosques in Makkah apart from al-Masjid al-Haraam, such as the mosque that is at the foot of al-Safa or the mosque on the slope of Mount Abu Qabees and other mosques that were built in places where the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions went, there is no evidence for that in the Sunnah, and none of the imams encouraged that. Rather what is prescribed is to go to al-Masjid al-Haraam in particular, and to visit places where rituals of Hajj are done, such as ‘Arafah, Muzdalifah, al-Safa and al-Marwah. Similarly, it is not part of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to visit any of the mountains and sites around Makkah apart from the sites of ‘Arafah, Muzdalifah and Mina, such as Mount Hira’ and the mountain at Mina where it is said that there is qubbat al-fida’ and so on. It is not part of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to visit any of these sites, rather that is an innovation (bid’ah). End quote from Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn Taymiyah (26/144).
And he (may Allaah have mercy on him) stated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did his fourth ‘Umrah with the Farewell Pilgrimage, and hordes of Muslims performed Hajj with him, and no one stayed behind and did not do Hajj with him expect those whom Allaah willed.
In all of that, neither he nor any of his companions went to the cave of Hira’ or visited it, or any of the other sites around Makkah. There was no worship except in al-Masjid al-Haraam, between al-Safa and al-Marwah, and in Mina, al-Muzdalifah and ‘Arafaat.
Then after he was gone, neither the Rightly-Guided Caliphs nor others among the earlier generations, went to the cave of Hira’ to pray and supplicate there.
It is well known that if this was something prescribed and recommended for which Allaah gives reward, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would have known it best of all people, and he would have taught it to his companions, and his companions would have known it better and been more keen to do it than those who came after them. As they did not pay any attention to any such matters, it is known that it is an innovation, which they did not regard as an act of worship and obedience that draws one closer to Allaah, so whoever regards it as an act of worship and obedience that draws one closer to Allaah has followed a path other than their path and has prescribed in Islam something which Allaah has not permitted. End quote from Iqtida’ al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem, p. 425.

So Ibn Umar Radiallahu Anhu, and the blessings of following the Sunnah (praying where the Master Sallallahu alaihi wa alehi wa sallam prayed) is refuted by the salafiyah and their inspiration ibn taymiyah without anything but their desire to impose themselves.