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the prophet :saw: and ibrahim :as: and sahaba :razi: did that too, i guess they were mazak too? nauzubillah…i m not saying jihad is only to take women prisoners of war, but it is part of islam and a proven sunnah, we cant be shy of this act. wallah o alam

What is a right hand servant? Do you have to be married to have one? How can you finalize it and get one and state this person as your right hand servant?.

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.  

Firstly: 

If Allaah enables the Muslim mujahideen to defeat kaafir enemies in war, then the men may be killed, ransomed, set free without ransom or enslaved. The choice between these four options is to be made by the ruler, according to what he thinks is the best course. 

With regard to the women, they become slaves and “those whom one's right hand possesses” (described as a “right hand servant” in the question). Male children also become slaves. The ruler shares out these slaves among the mujaahideen. 

Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason why a person may be taken as a slave is his being a kaafir and waging war against Allaah and His Messenger. If Allaah enables the Muslims who are striving and sacrificing their lives and their wealth and all that Allaah has given them to make the word of Allaah supreme over the kaafirs, then He allows them to enslave the kuffaar when they capture them, unless the ruler chooses to free them or to ransom them, if that serves the interests of the Muslims. 

Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 3/387 

Islam limited the sources of slaves which existed before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar.  

Islam treated female slaves more kindly in their enslavement than other cultures did. Their honour was not considered to be permissible to anyone by way of prostitution, which was the fate of female prisoners of war in most cases. Rather Islam made them the property of their masters alone, and forbade anyone else to also have intercourse with them, even if that was his son. Islam made it their right to become free through a contract of manumission; it encouraged setting them free and promised reward for that. Islam made setting slaves free an obligation in the case of some kinds of expiation (kafaarah), such as the expiation for accidental killing, zihaar (a jaahili form of divorce in which a man said to his wife, “You are to me as my mother’s back”), and breaking oaths. They received the best treatment from their masters, as was enjoined by the pure sharee’ah. 

Secondly: 

A mujaahid does not have to be married in order to gain possession of a “slave whom one’s right hand possesses.” None of the scholars expressed such a view. 

Thirdly: 

If a mujaahid takes possession of a female slave or male slave, it is permissible for him to sell them. In either case – whether one acquires a slave through battle or through purchase – it is not permissible for a man to have intercourse with a female slave until she has had a period from which it may be ascertained that she is not pregnant. If she is pregnant then he must wait until she gives birth. 

It was narrated that Ruwayfi’ ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say on the day of Hunayn: “It is not permissible for any man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to irrigate the crop of another else – meaning to have intercourse with a woman who is pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to have intercourse with a captured woman until he has established that she is not pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out.” 

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2158; classed as hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1890. 

For many reasons, including the fact that the Muslims have long since given up jihad, slavery is now very rare. This means that the Muslims must be extra cautious by examining any case in which it is claimed that someone is a slave, whether male or female. 

For more information see question no. 26067 

And Allaah knows best. 

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This is WEIRD. Its still counter-intuitive to me that a man COULD have intercourse with a woman he's not married to just because she's collected "booty". Isn't that bringing women back down to the status of things?

Then could the reverse be true as well? Could a single woman take a male prisoner as a slave - so that he serves her sexual desires, but then she need not deal with the responsibilities of having a husband?

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This is WEIRD. Its still counter-intuitive to me that a man COULD have intercourse with a woman he's not married to just because she's collected "booty". Isn't that bringing women back down to the status of things?

Then could the reverse be true as well? Could a single woman take a male prisoner as a slave - so that he serves her sexual desires, but then she need not deal with the responsibilities of having a husband?
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I am new here, so I don't know this. Are you a Muslim female?

answer the question.

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*Originally posted by PyariCgudia: *
This is WEIRD. Its still counter-intuitive to me that a man COULD have intercourse with a woman he's not married to just because she's collected "booty". Isn't that bringing women back down to the status of things?

Then could the reverse be true as well? Could a single woman take a male prisoner as a slave - so that he serves her sexual desires, but then she need not deal with the responsibilities of having a husband?
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Ofcourse she can't. Can't you think of all the social ills that would cause?

There has been lot of discussion on the topic before. I am quoting my old response.

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*Originally posted by Code_Red: *

It is a shame when people dont want to listen to logical explanation. Instead they just want maintain their pre-emptive idea of some issue, no matter how much logical the explaination is.

You are free to to criticise, but do it with reasoning.

Islam has provided the wisest sollution for many evils of the society. We take prostitution and girl slavery.

Please note that both are very difficult to handle let alone abolish.

If you know about the early days of Islam. There were lots of wars and many conquests, so many captives, both men and women. There are three way any govt at that time would treat those captive women

**1. Set them free. Then most of them wont find any shelter and any means to earn living. As a result most would be forced to be prostitutes and they will be molested by many men. No one will be responsible for a child born as a result.

  1. Take them as a prisoner, then they most probably will serve as a pleasure tool for army. And they will be molested by many men repeatedly. No one is resposible for a child born as a result.

  2. Give one captive women to one man(or women) as a servent(slave).
    So that she will be provided with shelter, bread and protection. And she will serve in the house and her capter may have sexual relationship with her. In that case she will have sex with only one man. And he will be resposible for the child born as a result of this relationshilp**

Now any sensible person can judge what is the best solution.

Islam emphsised so much on the well being of slaves and gave them so many rights which were never given to them before. And encouraged people to free slaves.So to gradually eliminate this evil.
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The reason women can't use male slaves for pleasure is same as why they can't marry more than one man at a time.

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*Originally posted by Code_Red: *
There has been lot of discussion on the topic before. I am quoting my old response.

The reason women can't use male slaves for pleasure is same as why they can't marry more than one man at a time.
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I don't think most people are arguing what Islams's stance on slavery is, but they are rather disgusted by TMs support of slavery and how he wishes to bring it back.

but why does she have to succumb to any one man's sexual desires?

Why can't the muslim men keep to their wife? And hell, if they can't be satisfied with one, then they are allowed to take even up to 4. If that's not enough, they can screw a slave as well?

How about hand those female slaves back to their population where they rightfully belong?

There are too many other options.

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*Originally posted by PyariCgudia: *
but why does she have to succumb to any one man's sexual desires?

Why can't the muslim men keep to their wife? And hell, if they can't be satisfied with one, then they are allowed to take even up to 4. If that's not enough, they can screw a slave as well?

How about hand those female slaves back to their population where they rightfully belong?

There are too many other options.
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Maybe you haven't figured it out yet, but it's ok for a man to have sexual desires and find relief for his sexual frustrations. But not for women. They are to keep their desires and frustrations secret and only express them with their husband, who may or may not be interested in her sexully, because he has 3 other wives and slave girls for that.

I don’t think he is in support of slavery (I may be wrong). He is asking opinions from ladies about it, I guess :konfused:

And there is certainly a posibility of slavery comming back, though it was never been abolish completely. Only Just 50 years ago Nazis had many farms, where they used to keep slave women to produce children to be inducted in army from early teenage.

Many rural areas in sind, they keep slaves.

In my view, girl slavery was a much lesser evil as compared to prostitution. Islam tried to contain the later.

Now that you have prostitution. You can compare the pros and cons.

Is a prostitute better off now or a girl slave back then ?

remember : I am not saying one is good and other is bad, just see what is greater evil for women and society in general.

There was prostitution even when there was slavery.

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*Originally posted by PyariCgudia: *
but why does she have to succumb to any one man's sexual desires?

Why can't the muslim men keep to their wife? And hell, if they can't be satisfied with one, then they are allowed to take even up to 4. If that's not enough, they can screw a slave as well?

How about hand those female slaves back to their population where they rightfully belong?

There are too many other options.
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ok, lets see the options....

plz do share with us what u think can be done with these slave girls....

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*Originally posted by armughal: *

ok, lets see the options....

plz do share with us what u think can be done with these slave girls....
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Declare slavery to be wrong to begin with and not even bring up the problem.

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Declare slavery to be wrong to begin with and not even bring up the problem.
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Why declare it to be wrong when the Prophet (saws) did not? Why declare it to be wrong when the Sahaba had slaves?

At most one can say that Islam discourages slavery, and very tightly regulates it. But certainly, slavery is not wrong in Islam.

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Why declare it to be wrong when the Prophet (saws) did not? Why declare it to be wrong when the Sahaba had slaves?

At most one can say that Islam discourages slavery, and very tightly regulates it. But certainly, slavery is not wrong in Islam.
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I was replying to Armugul when he was asking for alternatives from PC. Islam should have just banned slavery from the beginning.

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Islam should have just banned slavery from the beginning.
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Why?

To all those people doubting the Shariah:

Allah Subhana wa Ta’ala has said in the Holy Quran: “Wa maa ooteetum min al-ilm illaa qaleelan” which means, more or less, that, “You have been given a very small portion of knowledge”.

Hence, if a person fails to comprehend the underlying wisdom of any law of Shariah, he cannot regard it as a fault of Shariah (Allah forbid), on the contrary, it is the fault of his own perception and lack of understanding, because no law of Shariah is contradictory to wisdom.

For a detailed explaination on the ongoing topic. Click…

Islamic Law regarding slave girls

exatly my ponit. we cant shy away from certain aspects of religion just because they are politically incorrect at the moment. islam mentions freeing of slaves in high regard and even makes it as a punishment for some sins to make sure slaves are freed often, but the bottom line is that it was not abolished by rasul :saw: and it was practiced by sahaba, who were better than us in understanding of islam.

Maybe I am the only one who sees the problem in such blind thinking and following? Don’t question anything, just follow what mullah jee said.