Russia Says to Go Ahead with Iran Nuclear Reactor

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Iran deserves this nuclear reactor, and its good that the Russians have not believed American lies to defame Iran’s peaceful intentions. :slight_smile:

Russia Says to Go Ahead with Iran Nuclear Reactor

Russia brushed aside strong U.S. criticism on Wednesday and said it had agreed with Tehran to speed up building of a $800 million nuclear reactor in Iran and to consider constructing another. The United States, which has branded Iran part of an “axis of evil” for allegedly developing weapons of mass destruction, fiercely opposes the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program. Russian Atomic Energy Minister Alexander Rumyantsev said Washington had failed to show that Iran had broken any international regulations over the nuclear program. “We always tell our American colleagues that all Iran- Russia cooperation is in accordance with international regulations and the resolutions of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA),” Rumyantsev told a news conference.

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Why shouldnt Iran have a nuclear reactor or even weapons grade uranium for a device. Israel had such WMDs as well, we dont see US complaining or even talking bout it. Its supposed to be a taboo.
No one should have a monopoly in this case. Its not fair business :D

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...and I heard Russians backed down supporting Iran.

Oh well, must be a Christmas Gift!

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...and I heard Russians backed down supporting Iran.

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That is obviously not the case, as this latest news proves.

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Iran should pursue WMD's with no restraints, we should provide limited assistance, perhaps some type of "money for know how" program.

There is massive potential to a Pak-Iran friendship, we must pursue this.

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After Russia, now Ukraine says it will push ahead with military links with Iran

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=12/26/02&Cat=2&Num=012

Ukraine, Russia Assert to Cooperate With Iranian Projects

Ukraine and Russia each announced that they are determined to go ahead with their cooperation with Iran to build passenger planes and nuclear power plants respectively, IRNA reported. Russian Atomic Energy Minister Alexander Rumyantsev announced on Tuesday night that Moscow will go ahead with its determination to complete the Bushehr Nuclear Power Plan and will discuss Iranian plans to build six more nuclear reactors to produce nuclear power. Rumyantsev made these remarks as he returned to Tehran Tuesday night from his journey to the Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant currently under construction with Russian assistance. Rumyantsev said the Head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Gholamreza Aqazadeh, announced to the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in September that Iran plans to build six more nuclear reactors. Aqazadeh then called on all countries possessing nuclear technology to take part in the project, Russian minister said. Russia “plans to discuss with the nuclear club members their possible involvement in the ambitious and grand program of Iran,” the minister said.

Ukraine will also go ahead supports Iran’s plans to go ahead with the Antonov-140 turbo-prop plane project, Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Industrial Policy Anatoly Myalitsa said Tuesday. “We support the Iranian authorities’ stance on that project as planes of the Antonov-140 family have proved their competitiveness and good technical properties,” he told reporters in Kiev, Ukraine. “I hope the work will continue for the benefit of Russia, Ukraine and Iran.” Myalitsa made the statement despite the unfortunate crash of an Antonov-140 plane near the Iranian city of Isfahan Monday night. The accident killed all 45 people aboard, including 38 passengers and a six-strong crew. Most of the dead were senior aeronautics engineers and executives on a visit to advise a new factory producing a locally made version of their ill-fated Antonov AN-140, the Iran-140. Officials said the crash occurred at around 7:30 P.M. (1600 GMT) Monday while the plane was making its final descent to the historic city of Isfahan in central Iran. Meanwhile Iranian President Mohammad Khatami in a massage on Wednesday expressed condolences to the Ukrainian government and nation on the loss of Ukrainian aeronautic experts in the crash. “I extend my condolences to your excellency, the nation and the government as well as the bereaved Ukrainian families,” Khatami said in his message to Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma.

“Undoubtedly, the names and memory of the Ukrainian experts and managers who lost their lives will remain forever,” he added. In his message, the president also prayed to the Almighty for the departed souls to rest in peace and patience for the bereaved families to bear the loss. Iranian Minister of Foreign Affairs Kamal Kharrazi also on Wednesday expressed condolences to his Ukrainian and Russian counterparts over the deadly crash. "Undoubtedly, the heart-rending tragedy in which a group of Ukrainian aeronautic experts were killed is very regrettable. “I extend my heartfelt condolences to you, the Russian nation and government as well as the bereaved families of the victims,” Kharrazi said. The Ukrainian authorities had declared Thursday a national day of mourning, Interfax news agency reported on Wednesday. The bodies of 44 Ukrainians and Russians will be repatriated to Ukraine on Friday, the agency said. The remains of the victims are due to be returned in the night of Thursday to Friday to the town of Kharkiv in northern Ukraine, where the An-140 is built, officials said.

Melitsa also expressed condolences to the families of the dead. “It is a great pain for us to admit that Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing suffered such a telling loss,” he said. “The people who died there were the best specialists of Ukrainian and Russian aviation engineering community.” Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich conveyed condolences to the families of all victims of the crash earlier in the day. “The cream of Ukrainian and Russian aircraft industries died in that accident,” he said. A team of Ukrainian flight experts flew to Iran Wednesday to join an investigation to establish the cause of the Crash. The team is led by Ukrainian Minister of Industrial Policies Anatoli Mialytsia, the Interfax news agency said. ITAR-TASS said it includes 36 experts of Transport Ministry as well as Antonov and Kharkov companies which had built the ill-fated aircraft. They have been asked to compile a report on the disaster and present it to the Ukrainian government by June 3, 2003, the news agencies said.

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Iran should pursue WMD's

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Iran is well on its way, A country surplus in fuel and with potential to export don't need huge nuclear reactors. Russian energy minister signed a deal to also provide Tehran with nuclear fuel. Its a billion dollar deal.

Iran either already has a crude device or very close to getting one. N. Korea has 3 confirmed nuclear war heads and more in the pipe line. Time for the monkey in the white house to commit ground troops. LOL.!

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I agree that Iran should have nuclear capablities. So should all unstable nations with radical fundamentalist governments. Wouldn't we all feel much safer knowing these ayatollahs have their finger on the button?

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:hehe: You know what’s hilarious…these some lunatics who are cheering Russia here will be cursing it when Russia goes to fight Chechans. Can’t make up their minds.

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If terrorist state like Israel can have nukes every one should ;)

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If terrorist state like Israel can have nukes every one should ;)
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Thats right. Just about everybody in the Middle Eastern neighborhood considers Israel and the Sharon government as terrorists. Double standards are old hat for US administrations going back almost fifty years.

Russia has helped Iran build two nuclear sites, including a heavy-water plant crucial for the production of a plutonium-based nuclear bomb.

Also commercial satellite photographs, according to some sources, reveal a separate facility for producing highly-enriched uranium.
Iran has good reason to develop nukes -- Israel, which is estimated to have around 200 nukes with the missiles to deliver them (the Jerico class missile can easily reach Syria, Iraq, Libya, even southern Russia; in 1998 Israel bought three large submarines from Germany capable of carrying nuclear-armed cruise missiles).

Last year Israeli Defense Minister Director General Amos Yaron threatened to take out Iran's nuclear program. Israel has a reputation for not kidding around when it comes to interfering in the private affairs of its neighbors -- in 1981, Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin ordered air strikes against Iraq's Osirak nuclear facilities.

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The terrorist (or terrorized, depending on your point of view) state of Israel has never advocated the use of nuclear weapons as has the fundamentalist regime of Iran. Rafsanjani said even one atomic bomb would not leave anything in Israel, but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world. Doesn’t it bother people that this ideologically extremist regime may posess the “Muslim bomb”? What other irresponsible governments are we advocating to posess WMD? Libya? Yemen? Iraq? North Korea?

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Source - Michael Rubin

Nice neutral source as usual Sem, like your usual cut and pastes from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. :rolleyes:

btw, while you are talking about states supposedly threatening to use nukes, what do you think about states that have used them before? Why should they be allowed to keep them at all?

:slight_smile:

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I’ve could have quoted from any number of websites that reported Rafsanjani’s remarks, it is well documented. (I just happend to like that one). I am so flattered you remembered a post of mine from some months back. :blush:
I wish I could say that yours have been as memorable.

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Yes, you just quoted that suited your clearly Zionist loyalties, and which has been promptly rubbished as was your previous Zionist sources. :slight_smile:

In the meantime chew on this:-

Sharon Threatens Global Nuclear War](Sharon Threatens Global Nuclear War)

But more importantly, and to the gist of the debate, which you rather conveniantely refused to address. You are talking about states supposedly threatening to use nukes. So what do you think about states that have used them before? Why should they be allowed to keep them at all?

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I don't expect you to have any concept of what a nation's responsibilities are when defending the world, as it has been centuries since Muslims were a dominant power. In the meantime the has US rescued the world from facism, nazism, totalinarism, communism, Japanese Imperialism, and now working on religous extremism. Just remember that if the US hadn't saved the world's collective ass more than a few times over in the past century, you wouldn't have this luxury of posting these monotonous anti-American ravings on this website.

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I don't expect you to have any concept of what a nation's responsibilities are when defending the world...
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Its quite simple, no need for a biased history lesson (did you forget how you were forced to hand over all of Eastern Europe to the commies? :) ). Now you are talking about states supposedly threatening to use nukes. So what do you think about states that have used them before? Why should they be allowed to keep them at all? Should they be alllowed to keep them?

A simple yes or no will suffice. Thank you. :)

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You should feel honored Sem, that i am back this once to teach you real politik.

Sem you were saving the world in vietnam right? Where you chemicaled more people than Saddam. I bet you guys were saving the world in the bay of pigs.

The UN charter allows for self-defence and any country has the right to determine its own criteria for self-defense. Thus Iran is perfectly within its right to get a nuclear plant.

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heheheh this Russkie nuke plant seems like a real mirchi in someones ass. LOL..!!

Guess what, now the Saudis want nukes for their missiles… Welcome to the new world order seems like the arab ass is waking up from a loooooooooooooooong sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=4278

the Government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has, since the beginning of October 2002, and possibly before, begun active efforts to acquire completed nuclear weapons.
It is known that Saudi officials had approached officials of the Government of Pakistan in this regard, on the basis that Saudi possession of such weapons would act as a deterrent to any possible Israeli threat of nuclear force against Saudi Arabia. The sources indicated that Saudi Arabia was not interested in acquiring nuclear weapons manufacturing capability, or weapons-grade raw material, but only in acquiring actual weapons, preferably for missile delivery using Saudi CSS-2 medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs) which had been acquired from the People’s Republic of China (PRC).

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Honestly, the Saudis haven’t even figured out how to take out their own oil and market it. They have foreigners doing anything that requires brains. Pakistanis and Indians doing the manual work. I am not sure if these people are ready to have nukes.