RSS on their Conversion Assignment!

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Re: RSS on their Conversion Assignment!

@Samir_Mirchandani

well well well! look at the Med11Southie club at hard work here! Can’t go shopping for a few hours without this I like you like society rearing up.

So Southie looked up a link in wiki - suggest you read it.
“An estimate of the number of people killed remains unknown. Based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations, an estimate was done by K.S. Lal in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India, who claimed that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million. Although this estimate was disputed by Simon Digby in (School of Oriental and African Studies), Digby suggested that estimate lacks accurate data in pre-census times. In particular the records kept by al-Utbi, Mahmud al-Ghazni’s secretary, in the Tarikh-i-Yamini document several episodes of bloody military campaigns.[4] Hindus who converted to Islam however were not completely immune to persecution due to the caste system among Muslims in India established by Ziauddin al-Barani in the Fatawa-i Jahandari,[5] where they were regarded as an “Ajlaf” caste and subjected to discrimination by the “Ashraf” castes.[6]”

Now if you want bodycam evidence suggest you wait till time machine is invented.

BTW even a dissenting historian Digby objects to the number because it was pre-modern census, and not to the fact of how Islam was spread. If you take out the conversions by pressure tactics, economic discrimination taxes and outright violence, what’s left would be miniscule. Why do I say that? Look at the two religions that came without violence - zoroastrians or jewish populations - those found a home by non-violent reasons and that’d have been the scale

lol Samir.

First of all, its med “911” NOT “11,” because why would it be?

Secondly, we dont need a time Machine. What we need are actual sources from the time. Multiple lines of sources that help to corroborate a particular conclusion.

Now pay attention to this point. Pay close attention. Actual historians, people who do actual research, dispute your beliefs. The actual history does not support your blanket assumptions. I cant change history to suit you now can I ?!?! Just because you want Muslims to be the evildoers in your little fictional world, doesn’t mean that history should have to contort itself into your mold just to make that fiction a reality.

Now there is no evidence that you have presented, that should lead anyone to conclude that there was a systematic process of or a conspiracy to convert Hindus through pressure, discrimination or taxes or outright violence. If there were incidences, then they were just that, incidences. The Muslims who ruled were not all motivated by the same zeal, they had different motives, they didnt often cooperate with each other.

The fact is, that there are many reasons why people would convert. Perhaps everything you say is true. Muslims were the ascendant power at the time and such is the nature of humanity that ascendant powers attract adherents. But if the Muslims were truly such a scourge, there wouldnt have been any Hindus left in those areas where they ruled.

Jews and Zoroastrians didnt come in with an Army. Muslims came as an Army, and came in the Thousands. Gradually over a thousand years the areas under their rule become predominantly Muslims. Similar to how the after the Aryan invasion of India, the Dravidian ended up in the south and Aryan culture and religion predominated in the North. Relatively speaking, when your ancestors, the Aryans, arrived in India and imposed the caste system on the dark skinned dravidians in order ensure their ascendancy and relegate the native Indians to a position of institutionalized and religiously ordained destitution, wasn’t that far worse?

But I doubt the Aryan invasion of India bothers you very much. Muslims on the other hand…

In the end, we are talking about 1000 plus years of a complicated historical narrative. And so how the area become predominantly Muslim is also a complicated affair, with many factors coming into play, positive and negative.