Royal highness

This is one topic that I’ve never really researched before in the light of Islam so here goes…

What’s the Islamic stance on royal figures? Surely, it is a religion of equality so royalty doesn’t seem to be an Islamic concept but why is there a royal family in Saudi Arabia? :konfused:

Also, how should muslims go about addressing royal figures… Even Prophet saw wasn’t given titles like “your highness”, “jahaan panaa” etc so why should any other human being?

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Religion topic…please move it to the appropriate forum…thank you :chai:

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T’is a political one too because I want to talk about the Saudi royal family as well as other royalties around the world. :snooty:

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Royalty is in itself wrong.....going by the example of the prophet n pious people.......

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So how would you address the Queen of England if you ever met her? Bow down, kiss her hand and say “Your royal highness, it’s an honour to see your boothi” :salute:

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i will say “hello old lady…how u doin?? :faizy:

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Well heres the way I interpret it from Islamic and generall Historical teachings and examples. Islam is itself not against the concept of “Divine Rights of Kings” in fact the Koran makes strong references to Allah having blessed various figures with powerfull lives.

There is a difference however between truly Divine Kings and biggots who justuse it as an excuse to get thier way and impose thier will on people. Allah makes and takes is the general message of the Koran and there are many references to Just Kings in fact several Kings are also arguably Prophets or become notable figures for example Hazrat Dawood and Sulaymaan, as well as figures like Hazrat Yusuf and the Legendary Zul Qurnain.

However with regards to such Kings the Koran is quite clear that people will be able to recognise and differentiate truly great Royals from despicable ones. Ussually the actions of the Rulers and Royalty are often closely scrutinised and people have the duty to serve good Kings and get rid of Nasty ones. Rasool Allah came at a time when many Empires reached thier Zenith and went too far abusing thier Divine gifts. However some Kings were still recognised by Islam certainly a few such as the King of Abysinia and King Cheraman of India even adopted Islam with thier peoples too.

It’s a bit of a murky ground to get into… a bit like the debate on Islam and Politics and a lot of things are clouded, however theres reason to believe that both Islamicly and in terms of Legality and international Human rights the House of Saud is hardly a representative Royal Fammily and has a very bloody and undeserving History frankly the Sauds are thugs not Royals.

I hope I have clarified some things… but I fear i have only opened up more fronts… :bummer:

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Hello is still too formal… If I met the Saudi King, I’d be like:


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Yes and yes… :hehe: Thank you for some clarification but I do have more questions which I shall ask later.

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Personally in terms of rights I dont believe the current Royal Fammily of England (Great Britian) has any right over the people they claim to rule. Going by Divine rights here the true titular Rulers of England should be the Anglo Saxon decendents of Wessex have long since vanished into the mists of History. The current Royal Fammily are also of Germanic origin I believe they are from the house of Sax-Wiemar? :konfused: Anyway they are Cousins of the German Kaisers and co… and frankly like me they are outsiders to the British Isles. :cb:

If it was up to me the Crown would belong to whevero worked most hard for it… :snooty:

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Personally I would love to challenge any man from the house of Saud to a fair Sword fight, Mano Mano… the winner becomes king of Hejaz. I would offer prayers and hope to avenge the people of Arabia and if I beat the cruel Tyrants I would liberate the people and then disapear before someone got to me… :hehe:

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to quote beastie boys

I'm so high that they call me Your Highness

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I think the entire notion of royalty is ridiculous. There are no "divine" royals, just people who's ancestors were bigger assholes than yours. And if the British want to pay millions of pounds per year to finance the lifestyle of a few that's their choice. I just find it ridiculous how there are all these rules and customs when you meet the queen.

I'd be much more impressed meeting someone like Obama who actually worked to get to where he is as opposed to being born into it. The queen has done a good job, but she didn't exactly earn it and who's to say her successors are any good?

And religions have their own version of "royalty". Are you not supposed to be extra respectful when speaking about Muhammad? How does that make sense? Either everyone is equal, or they are not. And a few weeks ago people were discussing whether Syeds deserve extra respect. Give me a break.

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there were many Prophets which served officially as a king for their respective nations i.e. Prophet Daud AS, Prophet Suliman AS, Prophet Yusuf AS etc, where as most of the Prophets that came after Prophet Laut AS were born in a noble family, and also had a strong family to support the divine message but they were not King, or sardar of their respective clan.

"Your highness" "Your grace" "His Eminence" are english royalty etiquette, whereas Jahan Pana is a term we see usually Mughal Kings of subcontinent use in the bollywood movies. whereas in KSA, Saudi ministers are always addressed as "Your Excellency" and members of the royal family as "Your Highness."

In Islam, its not wrong to address the rurler, or governing body with gratitude, affection and respect, since ruler is deputy of ALLAH SWT on earth.

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Allah SWT has set a system ,and according to that system people should get the respect they deserve
everyone earns their place in life and if one person stops doing their duty the system fails
hence kings queens lords ladies etc
ceo,vp,director,manager,assistant ,and general dogsbody

take it which ever way names labels but Allah says their is a system
,we should respect the sweeper for what he does and also the person who is in a high ranking position..
.but dont follow blindly what either says or does..

Hope I,ve made sense …:bummer:

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If I ever met a Queen...I think I would feel quite ridiculous kissing her hand and calling her Your Royal Highness.

A) Ive no idea if that hand has been washed (imagine all the people that slobber all over it all day long)

B) I cant imagine caring enough...I think I'd be more star-struck by Kashif Memon

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^ it's considered rude to kiss the queen's hand, at least according to british standards.

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and it’s not permissable in islam…:hmmm: me thinks

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Are you saying the Queen doesn’t work hard? She’s an amazing ambassador for this country. Any other 84, nearly 85, year old woman would have retired a long time ago.

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^ Those other ordinary women retire earlier because their jobs didnt contain cutting ribbons here and there and going to free foreign visits etc