So how far back do you know your lineage? And do you know the details about them too?
I find the subject very fascinating! From all the information I could gather from my elder, I can say for sure that I know least 7 leaders up my ancestry on my fathers side.
IMHO it’s very important for those of us who have left their homelands and migrated to other homelands. Something to share with our next generations about who we are and where are our roots!
Now that you’ve gotten me interested.. i’ll try to find more about mine. Explain a little more about your family line if you want to..
ammarr, I would love to share with you the details but the question is would you be patient enough to listen to all the boring details? :-P
I will tell you some short interesting clippings I found out that may make you more curious to find out about your history.
My great-great-great grand father was a Sikh and our whole family strongly believed in Hazrat Baba Guru Nanak Sahib! There are many different versions that claim how we were converted to being Muslims. Some think it was the battles between Aurangzeb & Sikhs, some say our other relatives who believed in Hazrat Baba Guru Nanak but rather than joining the new religion stayed Muslims, preached us into converting back to being Muslims. Just that single aspect, religion, in my family is very appealing to me on it own!
Then the story of how we became Ahmadi Muslims!
One of the other ones that my cousins living abroad find interesting is that my Nana Jaan was in the first Indian Brigade that fought for the British against Germany in 1940-41. They were captured in Italy & stayed as POWs till the end of war. I have heard so many interesting stories of WW-II from my Nana jaan that is like the first hand experience. He also told me how he believed it was a conspiracy against Muslims during the partition of India/Pakistan that they sent most of the Muslim army men outside India. He was stationed in Java in 1947. We always used to have good discussions about it but I guess not anymore .. he died 2 years back.
Trust me, old people of your family are like treasures! Try to benefit from them as much as you can, while they are still around! :)
Ohhh.. so u are ahmadi???
i know about this term ahmadi means but i dun knwo what is making u guys different than us..
i mean is it another kind of muslim ??
like Sunni Shiaa and ahmadi??
hamare religion main bhi firqe hian thats sad
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ok let get back to ur topic.. well i dun knwo alot about my ancester but i will ask abu in this week.. so far i know about my Nana who was born and raised in Bangladesh so do my mom but then after partition they migrated to pakistan karachi. v are all urdu speaker, my Nana was an officer in an Oil company and my great nana was a business man.
My great grandfather he was a Judge in India, and my grand father born in india too but then after partition they migrated to pakistan lahore and then he surved in pakistan Railway as an officer
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umm thats all i know
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and yeah ham hamesha se hi muslims thay Sunni
what an interesting topic, Ahmadjee
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Very interesting replies too.
Nana and Nani spent most of their lives in Bangladesh and Indonesia. My Nana passed away years before I was born, so I have no memories of him except for what I have been able to gather from my Ammi and other relatives. He served as Pakistan’s ambassador to Indonesia, but grew extremely disillusioned with politics during the mid 1970s with the arrival of particular politicians in the political arena. During the Partition, my Nani and her first cousins were taken into the homes of, and hidden by, some Hindu families, an act which saved their lives Masha’Allah. There is a market in Bangladesh named after my Nana. Most of Ammi’s happier memories come from the days during when they lived in Bangladesh. I don’t know many personal details about my Nana except that he loved Star Trek (it had just come about during the early 1970s) and that he loved reading. 
All I know about my Ammi’s Nani (my par-Nani) is that she placed a great deal of emphasis upon education and she was extremely religious.
PP007,
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Do you know the names of your great grand fathers?
cHEeGUm, Do you know the name of some of the Sahabas from banu uqail?
Nadia_H, disillusioned by the politics of Pakistan or Indonesia? Actually, my father went to Bangladesh as the member of the first Air Squadron to be based in Dhaka in 1962. He always mentions how poorly & with a superiority complex the military treated the common folk of at that time East Pakistan. That reminds me I need to document his trip!
Have any of you guys who’s parent’s or grand parents migrated from Indian, visited back to the cities in India they migrated from?
According to my family, we are mughal(from dads side). We have a mapped out family tree spanning generations. I've never seen it though. I have heard a few very interesting stories from dad. I could write a book on it. smile
From my mothers side(pathan), her father was an orphan raised by missionaries. Ammie hasnt told me much else, but I shall ask my nana when I see him again, insha'Allah.
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Nadia_H, disillusioned by the politics of Pakistan or Indonesia?
Ahmadjee, good question! By Pakistan’s politics, I believe. (Now I understand my perceived ‘anti-Pakistani’ slant in the politics forums
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**Actually, my father went to Bangladesh as the member of the first Air Squadron to be based in Dhaka in 1962. He always mentions how poorly & with a superiority complex the military treated the common folk of at that time East Pakistan. **
wow. Member of the first Dhaka-based Air Squadron - that’s very interesting. You should definitely gather as many notes as possible regarding his trip; if he has any pictures that would be a huge asset. You could save them to show your grandchildren (Insha’Allah).
**Have any of you guys who’s parent’s or grand parents migrated from Indian, visited back to the cities in India they migrated from? **
No, never. Insha’Allah one day I plan on taking my Ammi and doing a trip through India and Bangladesh with her. (Just a dream though). She would love that.
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I love reading all of the stuff you folks shared. Thanks
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ahmadjee, that’s my favourite topic of all time. I remember when i was a very little kid i used to ask so many questions to my dada..which unfortunately i forgot over the time.
A long time back i was reading stuff on geneotology and found that english and irish folks were able to find their cousins from all over the world..so i started searching for muslim datas..and i was amazed to see that i couldn’t find a database like that. Anyhow..i do know that hundreds of years ago my grandparents side came from saudi arabia..they were sheikhs and my dadi side were syeds..i don’t know what happened in between those generations. Now i know a little bits and pieces of information.
I know that my par-dada side was from bareilli (often called bans bareilli) in india..and he was into education department..got khan sahib as a khitab..and his my par-dadi was moghal (don’t know much)..they left all their stuff in india when they left..so that link is broken now. My dada was in land customs..so his postings were all over pakistan..i really wish someday i can go and visit places like Quetta, pisheen, sargodha, chaman, mastoon, and many more.
My dadi always went back and forth to india even when she came to pakistan..coz lot of people from herside stayed there. She used to visit a place called rae-bareilli where her mom used to live (yes, i have been to that aabai place)..now i came to know that they were actually from a place called unnao in india.
My nana is my dadi’s brother..so its almost the same history for them..my nani’s birth village i have visited too..its all these old style hawailis and stuff.. and yes i have been to my mother’s birth place in india too..which is lucknow.
Thanks for the post..it motivated me to have a talk with my father about it and i was able to learn some more info
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I just wish that someday i might be able to meet some new extended relatives..i hope!
Wow everyone has such intriguing roots.
Mine (roots) are quite diverse in that my father’s side of the family is Pathan. And my mom’s side is Burmese (Burma), now known as Myanmar. Most people don’t even known where it is located it
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anyway its between china and India.
My mother however was born and raised in Pakistan.
Koi Pakistan se bhi hai yahan?
Very interesting
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My Nana was a pathwari and landowner outside Rawalpindi, his roots go back to Kashmir, some of my family members still have billi green eyes like the Kashmirs do, Nana lived in the city Rawalpindi. He helped into selling land around Rawalpindi and in Islamabad, at that time Islamabad was just a jungle! He made some ppl very rich but himself he did not buy a single plot there, he allways said that we have enough land in our village and some day we will go back there, so he does not want more land it’s greedy to want more. I am told he never took rishwat and was well known around as a honest man, he died at age 90.
My Dada was an Army Officer, lived outside Rawalpindi area and posted to other places, he was the cousin of Mohammad Sarwar Shaheed, the first person givin “Nishan-E-Haider” in Pakistan. He too was a honest man, unfortunalty he had to retire in an early age and died two months before I was born.
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NICE! Everyone has such interesting roots.
Dad's side is Muhajir . . . a line of Indian refugees that fled to pakistan for freedom.
Mom's Side is Pathan . . . a line of Iranian's that migrated to Afghanistan and India/Pakistan.
And somehow these two sides happen to be related. Go figure.
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.
U tell us how related?
Great Job Ahmed Jee.
Its really fun to read all these messages. Its amazing to think How some small step taken by some of our forefathers change our lifes forever.
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hmmm...same for me...my grand father's grand father was a Sikh (or maybe his father).. He moved from Kambojh, India to Pakistan about long before the partition.
What was yur great-great-great grand father's name? Or his fathers name. My xGreat Grandfather and his father converted together. Maybe we are related ;-)
Pretty intresting... :)
I cant go really far bak up my family tree all i do know is just upto my great grand parents...but all the info i hav on em.. i can write a book...
khair.. to start from i kno we hav roots in India... Kerala to b exact.. both my dada/dadi n nana/nani belonged to that state... but they migrated to Pakistan in the earlier days n setteled in Karachi... none of their family followed.. My Dada ji's Abba was a moulvi in a small mosque up there...n my Dada Ji was the first person in their family who studied n went upto a realy respectable status in his life..my Dadi belonged to the real famous business group of India.. n so far i kno.. my Dadi's parents hav roots in Saudi Arabia .. n they travelled to India in Camels... thats how my Dadi told us when we were kids... My Dada Ji worked with British Army n after partitioned switched to Pakistan Navy.. Worked at the rank of head of the Armament Division for years..
My Nana Ji was christian(protestant) his dad was a priest at the local church.. he converted to islam in late 1940s (around 1950) when he was around 20 yr old.. none of his family members did.. n married my Nani when he was 24...his abba ji's name was 'Maman' or thats wut i understand till now...they migrated to pakistan in 1954 n setteled in Karachi as well.. hmmm... i guess i shud stop here.. as i said i can write a book about em... :)
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