Was reading some stuff (fiction) where history of Sikh-Muslim (Mughal) rivalry was discussed. The writer tried to put blame of this rivalry (incident of murder of Sikh Guru Arjun during Jehangir’s reign) on a Hindu Laala Chandu Laal, due to personal grudges (Guru rejects Lala’s daughter’s marriage proposal with his son). Writer made a point that Sikhism and Mughal kingdom started at same time (Babar and Guru Nanak were contemporaries) and Akbar allocated lands to 4th Guru, who earlier earned his bread and butter by selling eggs to prove that there was harmony and mutual respect for each other.
To cut it short, there is a tradition / custom in sub-continent that communities blame others for sour relationship with certain communities due to wrong-doings of that other community.. like in Sikh-Muslim rivalry, Hindus are made responsible.
Whats your views on this attitude?
Do different communities of sub-continent ever tried to reconcile historical differences they have with other communities or tried to play serious role in resolving misunderstandings among other communities?
Re: Role of different communities in communal harmony
sabhii auroN kii nazar meNM 'nikkoo' bannaa chaahte haiN magar sach to yeh hai k ham sab ke andar shaitaan aur jaanwar baste haiN...ek shaKhs ke jaanwar/shaitaan ban jaane se poorii qaum ko buraa bhalaa kahnaa aur usko zimmedaar Thehraanaa sire se Ghalat hai...
...Hitler ke case meN dekhiye [shaayad yeh pahli misaal hai k jis meN ek shaKhs ke gunaah ko saarii qaum aur millat ne Khud ko qusoorvaar aajtak Thehraatii hai] jiske nateeje meN Israa'eel jaisaa 'bad-kirdaar, bad-sulook, badmaash' (spoiled brat) vujood meN aayaa.
ek kaa gunaah poorii qaum par kaise laadaa jaa saktaa hai?
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One of the most destructive human pastime is blame game. It has been responsible for Mass casualities. I take it as a sign of human frustration and unhappiness. People think, they are always right and other side wrong (specialy in subcontinent). That is human nature. It will never change. There has been an increase in this attitude and It will lead to clash of civilizations...
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If I remember right, Guru Arjan also gave protection to some one opposed to Jahangir, and Jahangir couldn't distinguish between Sikhs and Hindus as Sadhus and Sikhs looked similar. Plus Sikhi was as organized as formidable religion upto Guru Gobind singh's Khalsa :)
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If I remember right, Guru Arjan also gave protection to some one opposed to Jahangir, and Jahangir couldn't distinguish between Sikhs and Hindus as Sadhus and Sikhs looked similar. Plus Sikhi was as organized as formidable religion upto Guru Gobind singh's Khalsa :)
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When the king of Umerkot Rana Prasad gave asylum to Humayun and his pregnant wife(Akbar was in gestation) and she gave birth to Akbar there.
But Sindhis perceived Mughal invasion and they destroyed their homes / properties to avoid Mughal invasion at that time. Mughals could invade Sindh during Akbar's reign. Akbar was born in Sindh, but he took side of Arghoons and finally conquered Sindh to make it a Mughal province.
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But Sindhis perceived Mughal invasion and they destroyed their homes / properties to avoid Mughal invasion at that time. Mughals could invade Sindh during Akbar's reign. Akbar was born in Sindh, but he took side of Arghoons and finally conquered Sindh to make it a Mughal province.
Yes. But not Umerkot.It remained elusive for all conquerors.
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I don't understand blaming another community for your own wrongdoing. It's like in partition with Punjab the rivalry and death toll was strong mostly between Sikhs-Muslims. Yet what is the point of blaming a 3rd party
But then for some reason Hindus become Hanood but there is no Sikh version of Yahudi or Hanood when they were involved in partition, indian army and ruling indian gov.
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Just trying to understand Muqa bhai i have found something which is very Indo-Pakistani cultural that you will like. I will post it on showbiz pakistan because it is musical. Mujhe laga Hanood bahut pyara term hai so why not Sikh version.
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Just trying to understand Muqa bhai :) i have found something which is very Indo-Pakistani cultural that you will like. I will post it on showbiz pakistan because it is musical. Mujhe laga Hanood bahut pyara term hai so why not Sikh version.
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I don't understand blaming another community for your own wrongdoing. It's like in partition with Punjab the rivalry and death toll was strong mostly between Sikhs-Muslims. Yet what is the point of blaming a 3rd party
But then for some reason Hindus become Hanood but there is no Sikh version of Yahudi or Hanood when they were involved in partition, indian army and ruling indian gov.
Its because muslim never thought that Sikhism would be much larger challange. Hinduism remained as formidable as ever through Muslim rule in India. Pundas formed Bhakti movement to counter sufis then.
Now they are fighting against Sai Baba, soon there will be another ideological all out war with them :)
i have found something which is very Indo-Pakistani cultural that you will like. I will post it on showbiz pakistan because it is musical. Mujhe laga Hanood bahut pyara term hai so why not Sikh version.