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On the contrary I just got answer to my Question 
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Mine is a simple brain; can't handly complex stuff. I only remember what I read in school decades ago:
"Religion is like water. Water is called by different names by different people. Soemwhere, someone would say it is not 'water', but 'xxxx'. And he is right, because 'w-a-t-e-r' does not mean anything to him. 'x-x-x-x' could sound funny and laughable to someone else or worse, have a completely different meaning. But it does the same everywhere - quenches your thirst, helps crops grow, etc. And, where does all the water in all the world lead to? The same single ocean"
(ok, I made some of this up, but this was the message)
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Well if we're muslims then we'll obviously ythink that ISlam is the right religion ... as a matter of fact everyone will think their religion is the BEST ! ... so why the debate then ? what evidence do we have that Islam or any othe religion is not the right religion ?
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What evidence you have that they are right 
I bet you were born in Muslim family and that is why you are a Muslim. You are following the path of Islam becaues your great great great great ⌠Grandfather chose to be a Muslim. So is the case for person in any other religion. Since the day you are born, you have been convinced your religion is the best. If you were to born in Jewish family then you will grow up to be a jew. Question against your belief in any religion is considered a crime that has severe punishments on most occassionsâŚ
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Yes I agree with your anlogy My point is why have we have butchered billions from the begining of life, in the name of religion ? I see on this forum, people have so much hatred against other religions and even if they have same religions they hate on the bases of different sectsâŚ
Why people cannot get simple analogies like yours Are they SOOO STUPID Or Ignorance is Really a Bliss???
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so what r u trying to say THE_CHOSEN_ONE?
SHould we just be Athiests then ?
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Please Define Athiest⌠I am just seeking the TRUTH.
Well Athiest donât believe in GOD. I do believe in Higher Power or GOD as you say⌠My point is, do I need to be Labeled to be Saved??? Now we go back to the same question, what will be the Right Label??? IF there is no need for Label, then what are we fighting for? Why there is So Much Hatred???
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Well how would we find out if religion is not man-made ? I mean you cant really prove it in anyway so whats the point of thinking bout it ? You might as well juts follow Allah's commands in case there is Islam and in case it is the TRUE religion (I believe it is) ... Your not losing nething r u ?
P.S r u muslim ?
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I honestly donât know. But I think that except for a few eastern religions, others believe in âI am right and you are wrongâ. This soon leads to violence.
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And ^ message suites my thinking to a T.
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Well, all religion night have same âessenceâ like the waters in your pargraph, but the content differs and thatâs on these fundamental points that one thinks of its own belief to be part of the âright religionâ. I found the thread"Jesus as god" very instructive on that issueâŚ
I disagree, the right religion is not the one I was born in, but the one that chose me: I canât have faith in polytheism or the trinity, so Iâm neither hindu, nor christian, I thought about atheism but thatâs so boring, âŚ, I found in peace in Islam long time ago, whereever I look out I found troubles, whenever I come back to it, I am happy, I am bound to itâŚitâs the right religion (for me). Caution: as soon as you stop thinking youâre in the right religion youâre out of itâŚbut you should respect others belief, allways!
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In your analog,
I think religion is like bowel you pickup and every religion has its own shape and size,
And rivers in all the world lead to ocean.
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Yeh it prolly is ..
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** Question:** How can Islam be called the religion of peace when it was spread by the sword?
**Answer:******
It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force. The following points will make it clear, that far from being spread by the sword, it was the inherent force of truth, reason and logic that was responsible for the rapid spread of Islam.
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1. Islam means peace.**
Islam comes from the root word â*salaam*â, which means peace. It also means submitting oneâs will to Allah (swt). Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting oneâs will to the will of the Supreme Creator, Allah (swt).
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2. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace.**
Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice.
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3. Opinion of historian De Lacy OâLeary.**
The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy OâLeary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):
"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated."
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4. Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years.**
Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhan, that is the call for prayers.
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5. 14 million Arabs are Coptic Christians.**
Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.
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6. More than 80% non-Muslims in India.**
The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.
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7. Indonesia and Malaysia.**
Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?"
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8. East Coast of Africa.**
Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, "Which Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa?"
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9. Thomas Carlyle.**
The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book "Heroes and Hero worship", refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one manâs head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can."
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10. No compulsion in religion.**
With which sword was Islam spread? Even if Muslims had it they could not use it to spread Islam because the Qurâan says in the following verse:
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error"[Al-Qurâan 2:256]
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11. Sword of the Intellect.**
It is the sword of intellect. The sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Qurâan says in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse 125:
"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qurâan 16:125]
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12. Increase in the world religions from 1934 to 1984.**
An article in Readerâs Digest âAlmanacâ, year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in âThe Plain Truthâ magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, which war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam?
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13. Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe.**
Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?
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14. Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson.**
Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMED (pbuh) was born".
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]**And take this too
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** Question******
All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds. Why should a person only follow Islam? Can he not follow any of the religions?
**Answer**
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1**. **Major difference between Islam and most other religions**
All religions basically exhort mankind to be righteous and eschew evil. But Islam goes beyond that. It guides us towards practical ways of achieving righteousness and eliminating evil from our individual and collective lives. Islam takes into account human nature and the complexities of human society. Islam is guidance from the Creator Himself. Therefore, Islam is also called the *Deen-ul-Fitrah *(the natural religion of Man).
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2**. **Example - Islam commands us to shun robbery and also prescribes method of eleminating robbery**
a.[font="] **Islam prescribes method of eliminating robbery**
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**All major religions teach that theft is an evil act. Islam teaches the same. So what is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam, besides teaching that robbing is evil, shows a practical way of creating a social structure in which people will not rob.
b.[font="] **Islam prescribes *Zakaat***
Islam prescribes a system of *Zakaat* (obligatory annual charity). Islamic law prescribes that every person who has a saving that exceeds the *nisaab* level i.e. more than 85 grams of gold, should give 2.5% of that saving every lunar year in charity. If every rich person in the world gave *Zakaat *sincerely, poverty will be eradicated from this world. Not a single human being would die of hunger.
c.[font="] **Chopping off the hands as punishment for robbery**
Islam prescribes chopping off the hands of the convicted robber. The Glorious Qurâan says in Surah Maidah:
"As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands:a punishment by way
of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power, full of wisdom." Al-Qurâan 5:38]
The non-Muslim may say, "Chopping off the hands in this 20th century. Islam is a barbaric and ruthless religion!"
d.[font="] **Results achieved when Islamic *Shariah *Implemented**
America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries in the world. Unfortunately it also has one of the highest rates of crime, theft, and robbery. Suppose the Islamic *shariah *is implemented in America i.e. every rich person gives *Zakaat* ( 2.5% of his savings in charity above 85 grams of gold every lunar year), and every convicted robber has his or her hands chopped off as a punishment. Will the rate of theft and robbery in America increase, remain same or decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Moreover the existence of such a stringent law would discourage many a potential robber.
I agree that the amount of theft that takes place in the world today is so tremendous that if you chop off the hands of all the thieves, there will be tens of thousands of people whose hands will be chopped off. The point here is that the moment you implement this law the rate of theft will decline immediately. The potential robber would give it a serious thought before jeopardizing his limbs. The mere thought of the punishment itself will discourage majority of the robbers. There will barely be a few who would rob. Hence only a few personâs hands would be chopped off but millions would live peacefully without fear of being robbed.
Islamic *Shariah *is therefore practical, and achieves results.
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3. Example: Islam prohibits the molestation and rape of women. It enjoins *hijaab *and prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist.**
**Islam prescribes method of eliminating molestation and rape
**All the major religions declare the molestation and rape of women as grave sins. Islam teaches the same. What then is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam does not merely preach respect for women, or abhor molestation and rape as serious crimes, but also gives clear guidance as to how society can eliminate such crimes.Hijaab *for men*
Islam has a system of *hijaab*. The Glorious Qurâan first mentions *hijaab* for the men and then for the women. *Hijaab *for the men is mentioned in the following verse: "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do." [Al-Qurâan 24:30] The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.Hijaab *for women*
** ***Hijaab* for women is mentioned in the following verse: "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbandsâ fathers, their sons...." [Al-Qurâan 24:31] The extent of *hijaab *for a woman is that her complete body should be covered. The only part that can be seen, are the face and the hands up to the wrists. If they wish to cover, they can even cover these parts of the body. However some Islamic scholars insist that even the face should be covered.Hijaab *prevents molestation*
** **The reason why Allah has prescribed *Hijaab* for the women is given in the Qurâan in the folowing verse of Surah Al-Ahzab: "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women,that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, most Merciful." [Al-Qurâan 33:59] The Qurâan says that *Hijaab* has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women this would prevent them from being molested.Example of twin sisters
Suppose two sisters who are twins and who are equally beautiful, walk down a street. One of them is wearing the Islamic *Hijaab* i.e. the complete body is covered except for the face and the hands up to the wrists, and the other twin is wearing a mini skirt or shorts. Around the corner there is a hooligan who is waiting for an opportunity to tease a girl. Who will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic *Hijaab* or the girl wearing the mini skirt or shorts? Dresses that expose more than they conceal, are an indirect temptation to the opposite sex for teasing, molestation and rape. The Qurâan rightly says that the *hijaab* prevents women from being molested.Capital punishment for rapist
** **The Islamic *shariah* prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist. The non-Muslim may be horrified at such a stringent punishment in this age. Many accuse Islam of being ruthless and barbaric. I have asked a common question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose God-forbid, some one rapes your wife, your mother or your sister and you are made the judge. The rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said, "we would put him to death." Some went to the extent of saying, "we would torture him to death", If your wife or your mother is raped you want the rapist to be put to death. But if someone elseâs wife or mother is raped, capital punishment is a barbaric law. Why the double standards?U.S.A. has one of the highest rate of Rape
** **The United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. An F.B.I report in the year 1990 says that 1,02,555 cases of rape were reported. It further says that only 16% of the cases of rapes are reported. Thus, in order to know the actual number of rapes that took place in 1990, the reported figure should be multiplied by 6.25. We get a total of 6,40,968 rape cases that took place in the year 1990. If the total is divided by 365 the number of days in a year, we get an average of 1,756 rape incidents everyday. Later another report said that an average of 1900 cases of rape are committed in U.S.A every day. According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of Justice Statistics (U. S. Dept. of Justice) in 1996 alone 3,07,000 cases of rape were reported. Only 31% of the actual cases of rape were reported. Thus, 3,07,000 X 3.226 = 9,90,322 rapes took place in 1996. That is, an average of 2,713 cases of rape took place everyday in America in 1996. Every 32 seconds one rape is taking place in America. Maybe American rapists got bolder. The FBI report of 1990 continues and says that out of the rape cases that were reported only 10% of the rapist were arrested, that is only 1.6% of the actual rapes committed. Out of those arrested, 50% were let free before the trial. This would mean that only 0.8% of the rapists faced a trial. In other words if a person commits 125 rapes the chances that he will get a punishment for rape is only once. Many would consider this a good gamble. And the report says that of those people who faced trial 50% received sentences of less than a yearâs imprisonment though the American law says rape carries a seven year sentence of imprisonment. For a rapist, the judge is lenient to first time offenders. Imagine a person commits 125 rapes and the chances of being convicted is only once, and 50% of the time the judge will grant leniency and give a sentence of less than a year!*Results achieved when Islamic *Shariah *Implemented
**Suppose the Islamic *shariah *is implemented in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic *Hijaab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrists. After this if any man commits rape, he gets capital punishment. The question is, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same or will it decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Islamic *Shariah *gets results.** 4. Islam has Practical Solutions for the Problems of Mankind** Islam is the best way of life because its teachings are not doctrinaire rhetoric but practical solutions for the problems of mankind. Islam achieves results both at the individual and collective levels. Islam is the best way of life because it is a practical, universal religion not confined to any ethnic group or nationality. [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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wuah!!!:) what a post OMG!!!, 'Right religion!!!! ' definitly!
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OMG, you must be sniffing something Good :D This thread is not about being Islam as a right religion or not. It's about any religion. By the way, I can bet a million dollars that you are Muslim because your parents and their parents chosen Islam. From the day you were born, you have been taught Islam is the right religion. :)
To parissenoor, as you said and I quote " I disagree, the right religion is not the one I was born in, but the one that chose me."
You have missed the point completely, your chosen faith was already chosen for you by your parents, even before your birth.
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Question: Why should we take it to be axiomatically true that for a religion to be ârightâ, it must be selected and not inherited? I posit that the âtruthâ of a faith is independent of how people arrive to it.
If one thinks they are on the right path, why encourage leaving it?
Unless the ârightâ religion was to choose the âwrongâ oneâŚbut thatâs just playing mindgames now
Right is right, and wrong is wrongâŚmethod of choice does not change this. As for heaven and hell, no one can be certain who goes where as we have untill the last fleeting moments of our lives to recognize. So the correct answer is: who cares about the other paths, stick with the familiar.
Prayers are also answered after you are dead. If you are looking for intellectual tools to deterine what religion is right or wrong, none exist. Does that mean they are equally âwrongâ? That statement is illogical.
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logix, calculations and mental level would tell a person if he's right or wrong. thats called kurkurism and the person who follows it is called kurkurist.
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Please do enlighten us about your calculation method By the way, you havenât answered any questions⌠Doesnât seem Logical
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I think scientology is the right religion because all our role models like mimi rogers and tom cruise belong in it.