Ridiculous ways of ridiculous sect....SIGHEH? anybody?

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http://headlines.sify.com/popwin.html

Iran plans decency houses for prostitutes
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Tehran, July 30

After more than two decades of subjecting kerbcrawlers to the lash, Iran’s Islamic regime is thinking the unthinkable _ in the face of an explosion of street prostitution, it is floating plans to set up state-approved ‘decency houses.’

Conservatives, who still run the courts and security services here, have been quick to slam the proposals as anything but decent, making it far from certain they will ever be put into practice.

But the very fact that they are being openly aired in the press has shattered one of conservative Islam’s strongest taboos and is the talk of every cab rank and fast-food store in this city.

The proposals being floated take advantage of a peculiar tradition of Shiite Islam, the majority sect here, which allows for ‘temporary marriage’ or sigheh.

Street prostitutes picked up by the religious police or other security forces would be given a choice _ take the assistance of social services to give up their profession, or accept a placement in a state-sponsored ‘decency house’ where they could contract temporary marriages with their clients.

Customers would pay a dowry rather than a fee and would be able to set the duration of the ‘marriage contract.’

The ‘decency houses’ would not be open to any male _ only those with identity cards proving they were bachelors, widowers, or married to women incapacitated by physical or mental illness would be admitted.

Certain Tehran hotels have already been earmarked for possible use, the newspapers said.

The Persian-language media was coy about exactly which government ministries were behind the taboo-breaking proposals.

But Deputy Interior Minister for Social Affairs Ashraf Borujerdi told the BBC that her department had helped draw up the proposals.

“Some people believe that talking about such issues is taboo, but they are part of the reality of society, and turning a blind eye will not solve the problem,” the BBC quoted Borujerdi as saying.

And the rapidly expanding scale of the problem amidst Iran’s mounting economic crisis _ as many as 300,000 women are now reckoned to work the streets _ means that the proposals are finding some unlikely supporters.

SIGHEH…

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Its a shiite practice, a temporary marriage which can be done with anyone anytime. She just has to be willing.

Its the shiite version of the 'one night stand' and as such has no place in islam.

May Allah guide us all, such practices in the name of islam place a bad reputation on the religion of Allah.

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Miniac

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Thanx ..then what is ‘Mutah’ ?

How does It differ from IT?

I think these sects like Agha Khan ,Bohra,& others owe an opology to Islam for perverting it .

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Agha Khani worship Prince Agha Khan & he sells seat in Jannah just as a seat in his Agha Khan Medical college to Medical students…he he he he

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No idea what 'mutah' is...

Yeah Agha Khani's are misguided, so are many others. Islam as it is has 73 sects.

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Only one who owes an apology to Islam, are all the Wahabis, Mullahs, Taliban and Osama lovers who are destroying Islam.

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Muta is the Arabic word, the literal meaning of which is “enjoyment” but technically it means a marriage contracted for a fixed period in return for a recompense or ajar.
This sort of temporary marriage seems to have been in vogue in the pre-Islamic days and the prophet permitted in the beginning in certain compelling circumstances but later on prohibited it.
According to hadith Muta was lawful in the early epochs of Islam in the case of necessity and was forbidden by the Prophet (PBUH) on the day of the conquest of Makkah.

The above is from: http://www.kr-hcy.com/Shiisms/sabiri/mythc13.htm

U can check about it by searching in the “Religion” forum, or on the web.

I work with one Saudi Shia, he does “Muta” every month sometimes here in Saudia or goes to Bahrain (Bahrainis are predominately Shia’s, but the government is Sunni) to do “Muta”.
Like other Shi’ite beliefs, they do not “Kiss and Tell”, but I “badgered” him for telling this.

** Someone told me long time ago that the majority of the dancers (tuwifes), film actress, and prostitutes belong to the Shia sect for this “reason”…**

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there should be some safety valve for sex
in islamic countries. total erasure of sex
will create other problems of religious perversion since all energy will go into
religen.

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I am not going to edit anything from this thread.

But just to let you all know...its fair and fine to have ideological differences with others, whether its another religion, or another sect within your religion, or your next door neighbor. But once and for all, Im laying down the LAW of the religion forum for you....DO NOT MOCK anyones beliefs.

There is a difference between discussing differing beliefs, and making fun of them. You may feel that since this forum is largely representative of Islam, you can get away with making a mockery of any other religion or sect. But do note it down if you have to. There will be no more of that.

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The ignorance about Shias is simply amazing.

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[quote]
Originally posted by Maula Baksh:
The ignorance about Shias is simply amazing.
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perhaps a good starting point for you start a web page with misconceptions cleared using sources tracing back to Quran and Sunnah???

May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

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I believe the better option for Iranian Government would be incentive to encourage Polygamy.

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RVIZK

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If you want safety valve ,why not have polygamy & islamic system of maturity not by age 18 which is voting age but by sexual maturity that is Menarche i.e the age when the girl gets her first monthly menses or period.

In India islamic people are opposing govt of Indias secular (western American Standard) of making it crime to marry less than 18 yrs old woman

Google point is just as good .

I am not making fun of any sect but i know Shia themselves wont allow there daughter to marry me temporarily there fore it is not acceptable ways in Iran or anywhere .

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every country has thier own sexual values
it cant be universally imposed according
to your interpretation. how much skin one want to expose or how much cleavage one want to flaunt in public cant be decided by one religen or one country for others.

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RVIKZ

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But even within a nation like India who determines those VALUES?

Isnt it oppression & imposition in the REVERSE even if …it is of opposite kind i.e. “u can show whatever u want”

Imposition is not one directional .

There is no referendum taken for “VALUES”.

There is NO majority party in India .

The Bjp (only )hardly have 30-40% & with coalition which means BRIBING WITH MINISTERSHIP" BJP gets the P.M. & Deputy P.m. Home ministry .But they are not REAL represntative of even 50% of the 85% of Hindus.

And if India were to have its OWN totally unique separate HIndian values diff.from Christian -Islamic ones ,at best it would be like Islamic Pakistan,in being theocratic state .

So you r NOT now what you claim that is Secular .The most you wannabe is HINDU PAKISTAN.

Unfortunately right now confusion is b/c your right now neither Secular nor Hindutva!!!

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Coming back to religous laws it will always be unsecular to interfere with it .But going Hindutva is not what majority 0f 85% have said through balot (BJP is NOT a majority rep)SO FAR !!

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