should there be ban misinterpretation of quran justifying discrimination
based on religen?
Contempt for non-Muslims suffuses Saudi translations of the Islamic holy book. It is a matter of some urgency, then, that federal and state correctional institutions stop allowing the use of the Wahhabi Koran in Islamic teaching. Every prison warden in America should examine his library and replace this volume with an accurate translation.
A bigoted Saudi translation? If ever there was a bigot, it's Stephen Schwartz (former, or perhaps still, editor of the Jewish Forward). Leaving aside whether we agree with the so-called "wahhabi" translation, what Schwartz is too ignorant to realise or pretends not to know so he can make his usual cheap digs at any and all non-Sufi Muslims is that the Qur'an translation he points a finger at here is in fact an "Interpretation of the meanings of the Noble Qur'an... [being a] summarized version of at-Tabari, al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir..." (as clearly explained by the translators).
In other words, it's not a straight word for word translation of the Arabic text but rather an attempt at an interpretation taking into account the exegesis given in the aforementioned commentaries. So one shouldn't be surprised to find it littered with bracketed explanations not found in other translations. For this reason i don't particularly like giving this translation to someone knew to the Qur'an because the commentary often impedes the flow and urgency of the text in critical places. On top of that some readers will naturally disagree with the translators' preferred commentary.
In reality, i'm sure Schwartz is fully aware of all of this, he's just to bigoted to admit it in case it cancels the need for yet another one of his mind numbingly dull articles.
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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
jihad can be interpreted many ways like how to stop smoking
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only if you ARE smoking anything.. otherwise it's pretty clear to those who study the whole Qur'an in context.. the struggle is just not any struggle.. u could be struggling with your fear of heights.. The Weekly Standard could be struggling to find the most bigoted writes on the face of the earth to grace their space.. however the Qur'an only implies the struggle IN THE WAY OF ALLAH..
Pakistani abroad, you always offer to read “Quran in context”. A book beautifully compiled, comprehensive, narrated by Allah must not depend on contexts.
I offer you to read Gita of Hindus without context. There is no confusion, no interpretation is required, and no misinterpretation is created. What shall we say that Gita is far ahead of Quran, compiled thousands of centuries earlier to Quran?
I consider it a plus for the Book where one has to read it in it's entirety and still keep reading to get the timeless message within.\
I wouldn't want to get into some competition comparing it with other books; sure it must be nice to have one where u don't need context, to me the pursuit of knowledge is fun when i have to cross reference several verses from all over the Book to actually get to the message 'encoded'
kinda proves why the Qur'an stresses that no one but those who hold 'knowledge' will understand it's message.. it's easier this way so that the bigots find no where to hide when they do selective or misquoting.
the first mistake made by this author is that he used the phrase "wahhabi Quran"....
there is only One Quran and no other....
there have been many books published on the meaning of the Quran and what he author shud have used is "the wahhabi books for the meaning of the Quran"....
he makes it seem like there r millions of editions of Quran just like there r multiple editions of bible....
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....Gita is far ahead of Quran, ...
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Typical RSS MAToo statement who is trying to tell the world “my a$$ is bigger than yours”.
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....read Gita .....There is no confusion, no interpretation is required, and no misinterpretation is created ...
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Simply shows you ain't read no Gita. Like any other holy scripture, Gita is filled with complex scenarios, and deep meaning.
Take for example the beautiful concept of Varna. See how you derive caste system if Varna is accepted without proper context. I thought most of Baha-Rat-i knew about it (that is if they had wisdom to read Gita).
Being low caste, anj-aan Bharatis should realize the dangers of reading Gita out of context.
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how sovereignity of nations recognized in quran ?is it devided in to
dar ul-islam and dar ul-harb or these words dont appear in quran.
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These typically are RSS MAToo questions / statements. Lala Rai made those stupid derivations and ended up partitioning Punjab.
Care to visit the library or bookstore and doing some search?
Techies may be Internet savvy, but the prejudice keeps them from learning the truth (even in the age of internet)
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Pakistaniabroad, can you explain your words…
“Who has knowledge will understand the massage in Quran.”
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per the Qur'an:
[3:7] He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.
Do you like these words or find it a derogatory remark?
And moreover, I really doubt the truthful ness of the people converting en mass to Islam in mid centuries.
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Pakistani abroad,
‘If you are intelligent, you will understand me.’
Do you like these words or find it a derogatory remark?
And moreover, I really doubt the truthful ness of the people converting en mass to Islam in mid centuries.
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