Revolutionary expediency

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I did say it was a starter. I can come up with more but I don’t want to waste my time, although all the information is easy to find as google is my friend. However you have failed to mention even a single project of KP government.

Six cities to have coal power plants

         LAHORE: Punjab has planned to set up small coal-based energy projects in six towns. 

Each of the six cities, including Lahore, Faisalabad, Gujranwala, Sialkot, Multan and Sheikhupura, would have two power plants of 55MW each to meet energy requirements of industries.
This was disclosed in a meeting chaired by Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif on Friday.
He said the plants would facilitate Sundar Industrial Estate, Lahore; M-III Industrial Estate, Faisalabad; Kot Lakhpat and Batapur in Lahore; Gujranwala, Sialkot, Multan and Sheikhupura.
He formed a committee headed by the chief secretary to identify sites for the plants within three days where railway line, water supply, power transmission line and other basic facilities were already available.
Published in Dawn, July 19th , 2014

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Ohhh pleaseeeee don’t insult the people of FATA by calling them criminals.

Here are details of another project of Punjab Government.

Pakistan’s First Solar Project Is One Of The World’s Largest | ThinkProgress
Pakistan’s First Solar Project Is One Of The World’s Largest

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CREDIT: AP/ Ajit Solanki

Last week Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif inaugurated Pakistan’s first solar power park, which will start generating 100 megawatts of energy by the end of the year and a total of 1,000 megawatts by 2016. The Quaid-e-Azam Solar Park project has 400,000 solar panels, with a total cost of around $131 million. When complete the plant will produce about 2.5 times the power coming from the 392 megawatt Ivanpah solar thermal plant in California’s Mojave Desert, making it one of the largest solar parks in the world.
“If you come here after one and a half years, you will see a river of solar panels, residential buildings and offices — it will be a new world,” said site engineer Muhammad Sajid, pointing towards the surrounding desert.

This is big news for a country suffering from chronic energy shortages that leave people without power for large chunks of the day on a regular basis. And then there’s the nearly half of the households that aren’t even connected to the grid, according to a World Bank study. When temperatures soar in the summer, electricity demand can fall short by around 4,000 megawatts.
At the inauguration, the prime minister said “the dearth of electricity has pushed the country backwards and its entire industry and agriculture sector have suffered immensely.”
Pakistan is one of the most vulnerable countries in the world to the impacts of climate change due to its location, population, and environmental degradation. A recent study in the journal Nature Climate Change found that people are already migrating out of the Pakistan for climate-related reasons such as flooding and heat stress, which have negative effects on agriculture and can prove very costly.
“We need energy badly and we need clean energy, this is a sustainable solution for years to come,” Imran Sikandar Baluch, head of the Bahawalpur district administration in Punjab where the plant is located, told the AFP. “Pakistan is a place where you have a lot of solar potential. In Bahawalpur, with very little rain and a lot of sunshine, it makes the project feasible and more economical.”
At a meeting shortly after the inauguration, Sharif approved expanding the project from from 10,000 acres to 15,000 acres and increasing the capacity from 1,000 megawatts to 1,500 megawatts.

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FFS. Read man. I said Afghans, are you that foolish that in you think FATA population equals criminals? Stop projecting and read before running your fingers wild.

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That again being due to law and order situation. That province is on fire for the past 10 years.

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Starter? A starter which was started 30 years ago, 25 years ago, 15 years ago or six years ago or 14 months ago? You see, if you had any idea about history of Nawas League in Punjab, I wouldn’t be asking you this question.

Anyway:

Imran to lay foundation of power project in Swat today - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

KPK Government plans to launch 17 energy projects

Now do you wanna discuss which type of electricity is a renewal source of energy, and is cheaper and environmentally friendly?

Btw, what’s the update on Nandipur project? I heard billions were spent on advertising that, is that plant working now? How much energy it’s producing and how cheap is that?

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Don't be so pathetic. What you are saying is like saying that black people commit crimes in England and as a result the state is failing. Or than Albanians are committing crimes and as a result Boris Johnson cannot carry out any projects.

How many people of KP are living in Punjab do you know? How many people of KP are living in Karachi? are they all criminals and does that stop the state from performing? Most of the Afghans in Pakistan are refugees and their children. They are hard working people that have made Pakistan their home and are contributing towards the economy of Pakistan. Many of them have shifted to Punjab for better work opportunities.

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If you want to discuss power projects, maybe it would help to so some research on nandipur and ascertain which people were placated during the so called clearance of circular debt last year.

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How absolutely pathetic of you to compare largely antagonised illegal refugees from a hostile neighbours with people of KPK. Are you trying to imply that people of KPK are also illegal refugees in Karachi or your Nawas Sharif's Punjab, and by default criminals? Is it now, eh? You should be ashamed by the comparison you have just drawn. You are losing it now. Clearly you cannot read and I'm disgusted by your cloddish backwardness.

And yes, I have worked with Child Protection Officers and Social Work and Social Care Researchers and the fact that many black and ethnic minority children have the highest percentage of criminal record is highlighted a failure of the state. But we're talking about a first class country here, where failed power plants which advertised by using billions our of public money isn't considered a massive success by illiterate masses.

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I am not saying that Nawaz Sharif is an angel. I was actually a supporter of Imran Khan and would have supported him again at the next election, had he not decided to take extra constitutional measures to try to topple a government.

Nandipur project parts were laying a Karachi port for many years and rusting away. PML N came to power and within months completed this project. However they are waiting for a fan which if I am not mistaken should be arriving in a few months and after than Nandipur will be fully functional. It is already completed. A project that could not be completed in years PML N completed in months.

If you want to talk about corruption, well there is no case of corruption against PML N so far, however even if there is corruption, there was more corruption during PPP rule without any development. The Generals also indulged in corruption when they came to power. Progress and development is the key.

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Refugees are not illegal first of all, they are legal. If you say that those immigrants are criminal then the same argument is being made in Karachi by MQM. Also as far as these people are a burden on the state, the people leaving KP for other areas of the country are also a burden on those other states. Nobody is moving to KP but people of KP are moving to other states, and even abroad.

We are talking about development here, are you saying that because an ethnic group is indulging in a criminal activity (debateable...I disagree) that stops the state from carrying out development projects. Are you trying to justify the failure of PTI government in KP on a few people that are criminals. Are you blaming the poor hard working Afghans for the failure of KP government.

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Hold on.

Are you saying that people of KPK who move to Karachi or your Nawas Sharif's Punjab are "immigrants" and "refugees"? Please for once, do think before posting.

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I am saying that the people you call "Afghans" as far as I am concerned are citizens of Pakistan as they have been living in Pakistan for over 30 years and their children and grandchildren were born here and grew up here, and there is no difference between a citizen living in KP or Sindh. We are talking about the performance (or lack of) of PTI in KP (a state) here and not Pakistan as a country. Therefore when people move from one state to another than can be called internal migration.

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You still didn't actually answer the question so I'm assuming you and Altaf Hussain share the same view when it comes to people of KPK?

"As far as I am concerned" - and who are you? The UN has classified them as refugees, now I bet you probably don't know what citizenship actually means.

30 years ago? I guess the recent US invasion of Afghanistan never happened. Selective memory or wholly amnesia?

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When you have people like gullo butts on pay roll, you loose moral High ground /integrity to claim there are no cases against the govt. this just further illustrate the strategy of buying out (arslan, cough)or intimidating the pakistani people have been effective. Whatever you do just don't google NS and corruption together because you may awake and realize you are not in utopia. not Everyone worldwide can be intimidated or purchased. Two wrongs do not equal 1 right.

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This is for all who are bursting out that nothing has happened in KPK

PTI IN KPK

  1. KPK Revenue Targets Achieved…
  2. KPK Education Enrollment Target Achieved…
  3. KPK Sehat Targets Achieved…
  4. KPK Transparency laws Approved Minister fired and corruption charges Investigated…
  5. VIP Culture Finished
  6. Patwari Nizam Improved…
  7. Police Nizam most improved among all
  8. KPK Teachers Absenteeism complaint dealt with Attendance systems
  9. KPK Bi-Elections Peshawar Election and Abotabbad Election where PTI Lost had no fights and rigging alligation from any party
  10. 3 Small Dams Inaugurated
  11. PTI Mobile courts for dealing small cases in order to strengthen the superior Judiciary processes
  12. World Largest POLIO Campaign with not more than 0.1% Accidents/Terrorist attacks in the areas of KPK where POLIO Vaccines is considered Haram
  13. MASS Transit Plan for Peshawar Underway
  14. Model City Underway
  15. NAMAL UNIVERSITY
  16. Shokat Khanam Cancer Hospital Peshawar
  17. International Agreements for Education and Health
  18. ANti-Drone Successful campaign with Blockage to NATO and end result being DRONE Attacks FINISHED
  19. ELECTION Reforms for LOCAL ELECTIONS TESTED and protests for official announcements for these BIO-METRIC ELECTIONS
  20. Friendly Opposition Burried deep down…
  21. Tameer School
  22. Upgradation of all major hospitals with Dialysis sections and free insulin and sugar test services
  23. Right To Information Act
  24. Right to Services Act
    25.free medicine in hospitals
    26.Online FIR System started
    27.Mother-Child Health Care hospitals
    28.Rescue 1122 has also been established in KPK
    29.All The Government officers must have declared their assets Govt Order
    30.Mobile Van Health Service has been started in Swabi
    31.Clean and Green KPK project has been started
    32.KPK Government has announced regularization of all contract doctors of province.
    33.In Sports, Imran Khan under 19 Talent Hunt Cricket Program registrations has been started through which young talent will get a chance to play cricket at international level.
    34.For Monitoring Installation Of CCTV Cameras In Police Station.

Also check this out

Mega Cities Initiative | The Progress of PTI in KPK

And This is just around 2 years performance of PTI

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Oh I see, you have the pathological audacity to call people of KPK (who are citizens of Pakistan) a burden on your Nawas Sharif's Punjab, but when a large illegal immigrants from another country are identified as strain on a war torn's province you act like a holy molly? You bloody expect me to take your hypocrisy seriously?

By the way, the point was in relations to your retort that people of KPK are moving to your Nawas Sharif's Punjab and being a burden. Ali mentioned War as one of the reasons and I linked Afghan diaspora as highlight the burden that is on limited resources of a warn torn province, and many factors behind bad law and order situation there. Go and read the report published by KPK police department where "not so hard working" Afghans are no friends of Pakistan.

Make your mind up whether Nawas League is a government of Pakistan or Government of Punjab. If issues like unrestricted and unsupervised immigration is not a government's concern, then whose headache is it?

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You are just digging yourself in deeper and deeper.

The recent US invasion actually led to many Afghans actually returning to their country, due to improved conditions and better opportunities. The country was war zone before the US arrived, and the vast majority of the Afghans in Pakistan are from the 1979 era.

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Read the report published by KPK police department last month or so.

Btw, what's your opinion on coal vs hydroelectricity?

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And you have the audacity to call legal Afghan refugees who are either supported by the UN are hard working and industrious people as illegals and criminals.

Let me remind you the discussion was about performance of KP vs Punjab in terms of development, now people are people irrespective of what label you put on them. You have tried to justify the failure of KP government due to a small criminal element in the population. This criminal element is found in every other state.

You keep digging.

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You too , like me , good in copy paste