If he says that he can run a car 100% on water then he is as much of a liar and a fraud as Waqar mechanic. It does not matter whether he passed it at first attempt or on supplementaries. Even a scholar could be a fraud. Fraud has nothing to do with one’s education.
On the other hand, I DON’T consider you a fraud, instead I take you as a graduate from NED, as you claim. This is why I am asking for a SCIENTIFIC reply from you rather than a political or religious BS.
So again, what do you MEAN by saying that it might be following some OTHER laws?
Can you give some example of some of these OTHER laws you are referring to? Take a wild guess. Give us ONE such OTHER law.
If he says that he can run a car 100% on water then he is as much of a liar and a fraud as Waqar mechanic. It does not matter whether he passed it at first attempt or on supplementaries. Even a scholar could be a fraud. Fraud has nothing to do with one's education.
On the other hand, I DON'T consider you a fraud, instead I take you as a graduate from NED, as you claim. This is why I am asking for a SCIENTIFIC reply from you rather than a political or religious BS.
So again, what do you MEAN by saying that it might be following some OTHER laws?
Can you give some example of some of these OTHER laws you are referring to? Take a wild guess. Give us ONE such OTHER law.
Read my replies on this issue very carefully before you jump up and down. I never upheld the theory presented by AW before the media. But these scientists living in the same city/country should come out and prove once for all to the masses that AW and other scientists and professionals who upheld AW's theory, kit are lying. Is that difficult for you to understand?
Read my replies on this issue very carefully before you jump up and down. I never upheld the theory presented by AW before the media. But these scientists living in the same city/country should come out and prove once for all to the masses that AW and other scientists and professionals who upheld AW's theory, kit are lying. Is that difficult for you to understand?
You never upheld his theory but for some reason you support him just because he happens to be from area you support, I already mentioned that this guy didn't show up when he was invited to demonstrate his invention. Now someone told him another theory and his back on road making noises again.
Whether this guy is a fraud or not, it seems very unsettling that the top scientists
are coming down on the guy so harshly.
It almost seems like its something very personal to them, like their vazeefaas were on the line if indeed
his ‘invention’ was to cut conventional fuel consumption drastically in the country.
Are they protecting big oil interests ?
Even if this guy is a fraud, why are these scientists turning red and blue in their faces.
He is not stealing money from them. Or is he ?
But these scientists living in the same city/country should come out and prove once for all to the masses that AW and other scientists and professionals who upheld AW's theory, kit are lying. Is that difficult for you to understand?
So now we are not discussing those OTHER laws that might not be following the laws of thermodynamics. Eh?
Just cite ONE law that can override these laws. Just one. Come on.
May be get help from some pertinent person in this regard. Since the discussion is on an engineering subject, I would say minister of religious affairs, Khurshid Shah, would be the right person to talk to!
or may be your wild theories are actually coming from that religious minister?!
Fyi. Dr Atta did "come out" to NUST and invited this charlatan to have his kit investigated. But he baulked and did not show up.
If you care to see this new show from Hamid Mir where Dr Hoodbhoy was invited, you will see that Hamid, Hoodbhoy and the other guy in the show REPEATEDLY asked him to have his kit examined. But he did not agree even for once.
Whether this guy is a fraud or not, it seems very unsettling that the top scientists
seem to be coming down on the guy way too harshly.
Did you watch that tv serial on PTV called Chhoti Si Duniya? What do you think a person who knows English would feel like when everyone starts believing a Janu German?
That's what is happening. Most people are looking at it from Islam or Pakistani or Sindhi POV. In their religious/nationalist zeal they are believing a charlatan, a fraud. When a person who knows the truth sees this then he gets mad, and then he has no choice but to come out strongly against people who are fooling the whole nation, and making us a laughing stock in the world.
I wonder why people are putting the burden of proof on the scientists. Any sane scientist, from what knowledge we have as of now, would consider this 'invention' fraud unless proven otherwise.
The burden of proof should be on the person who claims an invention, not on the scientists! He has to go and prove his work if it is worth anything.
I am not a scientist but I believe in markets and if something as incredible as this exists, it should have been taken up by investors by now and mass production started.
I wonder why people are putting the burden of proof on the scientists. Any sane scientist, from what knowledge we have as of now, would consider this 'invention' fraud unless proven otherwise.
The burden of proof should be on the person who claims an invention, not on the scientists! He has to go and prove his work if it is worth anything.
I am not a scientist but I believe in markets and if something as incredible as this exists, it should have been taken up by investors by now and mass production started.
Exactly, but for some reason people want government to give him free money so he can start his own business, then he would disappear with all the grant from the government.
You never upheld his theory but for some reason you support him just because he happens to be from area you support, I already mentioned that this guy didn't show up when he was invited to demonstrate his invention. Now someone told him another theory and his back on road making noises again.
In that sense I also support a guy with long beard seems to be pious from your area:)
