Returning to Pakistan?

Some interesting stories, pasting the links below.

Learning to live at home

Not every Pakistani returning from the US after 9/11 feels comfortable as yet. But some are adjusting to the ‘new surroundings’ quicker than others

By Adnan Mahmood

Anis Ahmed, 26, returned to Pakistan a year ago after spending six years studying and working in America. Anis’s parents were thrilled to see him back but they aren’t that happy now. Anis has returned but still does not live with them. He’s in the same city but resides in a rented apartment right next to a software house that he works for. “My parents were thrilled when I told them I was coming back,” he recalls. “Frankly so was I to an extent. I was looking forward to being with them once again, but it wasn’t easy being back.”

Anis completed his bachelors in computer engineering from the University of Texas at Austin and worked as a software consultant for a major oil and gas company in Houston. “My years in the oil sector were worthwhile the my stay there. I focused on this sector because it is an emerging concern in Pakistan, and because I always wanted to come back and start a life here,” he explains.

But starting a life here has been a problem for him. “I just can’t fit back in. I don’t get along with my parents, with my siblings. There is a problem of understanding. Things have changed for me. I am not the same. I’ve gotten used to a life of more freedom and less responsibility; one where expectations don’t limit my choices,” Anis says.

Moving out was the only logical solution for Anis. “Had I not done this, my relations with my parents would have gotten worse. But it really was a defining moment for me.”

Anis’s mother fails to understand. “How could things have been so bad between a mother and a son had he lived with me? I don’t know what went wrong, but he’s not been the same since he returned. He was quite and liked to be with himself, he and his father were hardly on talking terms.”

Anis believes adjusting back into his country of origin is difficult because life is a lot different in Pakistan. “It’s not just my family, it’s difficult for me to adjust even at my workplace. The working environment here is totally unprofessional. People are judged not on the basis of their capabilities but their contacts. Work ethics are not cardinal, getting along with the boss is more important. I’m not used to working in such an environment.”

But some others returning from America have managed to change the environment around them to the sort they are used to. “I used to work in a bank in New York but they had to let me go after the Twin Tower fiasco. They were willing to keep me on their workforce but were not prepared to go through with the visa hassles with the INS on my behalf. Sponsoring my H1 was a problem for the bank and things were not all that encouraging in the job market. So I took the easy way out and returned,” says 33 year-old Amir Alam, who now works for a multinational bank in Lahore and seems to be totally at home.

“No problems there. The people were nice and accepted the new ideas and work ethics I introduced to my branch. The problem I came across was that the people in my bank did not know how to unwind. Banking is a tough job, and can be quite dry at times. But it has this exuberance to it and gives you a special kind of high. This energy needs to be consumed and it’s important for bankers to live a certain sort of a lifestyle which at times can be quite flashy,” Amir Alam says.

He gets his team to work hard the week-long and then encourages parties and evenings out to “get them in the right frame of mind”. “That’s the only way I’m going to get them to perform better than their usual self,” he says.

Fitting in has not been this simple for everyone. Riaz Alvi, 43, left the US because “it was becoming increasingly difficult to live my life the way I wanted to”.

“No mater how hard I tried to stay out of other people’s lives and mind my own business, I was continuously being forced to prove my inoffensiveness. I had a school-going daughter who was facing an identity crisis and had serious problems with being accepted, not just amongst her peers but also amongst her teachers.”

Choosing to return to Pakistan was still difficult. “I’ve lived in the US for almost 20 years. My children were born there and that is the only world they know. I have a community in the US that respects me. Leaving all that was tough,” Riaz says but complains that was just the start of his troubles. “Trying to adjust in Pakistan was even tougher. I don’t know what it takes to live in Pakistan any more; what are the tricks of the trade here; what values to adhere to; whom to know to get things done; what rules to follow and what rules to ignore. I wonder if I will be able to survive this transition at this stage in my life.”

Riaz’s wife Rukhsana is even more worried. “Living in Pakistan is difficult. I never wanted to return, since my life was easier there. Lesser tensions and fewer relatives to deal with. Here everything is so complicated and no system in place. Pakistanis are not used to following rules, they can’t even stand properly in a line. Everything is organised in the US and even if it is your adopted country your rights are totally protected.”

This is not what Riaz is worried about. He feels his children will have to go through the worst parts of the transition. “The attitude of the people in Pakistan is misplaced. Most of my relatives actually look up to me because I made some money there and because my children speak fluent English. Of course making money is good, but I would have rather been with my own people than in a foreign land if I had the means to do well here. Now my children are also treated differently. Some give them special attention, while others avoid them, both for the wrong reasons. I fear they might not have a normal relationship with Pakistan and Pakistanis.”

Aslam Qureshi, 34, used to work for a trucking company as a loader in New York. He had to return after 9/11 because his papers were not in order, but he says he’s glad to be back. “I was ‘randomly chosen for a complete body search’ seven times at the New York airport when I was returning and that was six months after 9/11. Of course I’m happy to be back.” Aslam says all those who say they led a better life in America are lying. “It’s tough being in a foreign land, where you have to make a compromise at every step. Now back here I have started a small business in my hometown of Gujar Khan and am my own boss. I have just bought a house and am spending time with my family.”

For Aslam this fact is significant – more important than making more money and living the so-called US dream. He too is facing a hard time getting people to accept him and to realise he is no outsider, but is ready to stick it out – because of a desire to be close to his family or because of a lack of options?

(Names have been changed to protect identities.)

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"...what are the tricks of the trade here; what values to adhere to; whom to know to get things done; what rules to follow and what rules to ignore. I wonder if I will be able to survive this transition at this stage in my life."
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Interesting read.
i always wonder how the transition process would be, assuming my family and i had to move to Pakistan permanently - after spending approximately eleven years in North America. i guess everyone's experiences will be subjective.

True! Whenever I am in Pakistan on holidays, I feel like visiting a foreign country.

hmmmm... altho i can kinda see where these ppl r coming from...

coz i am returning home too after living 5 yrs in the usa...

i think differently...

perhaps i had it easy coz although i had physically left pakistan, my heart was still always in pakistan, i went there for all my summer and winter breaks, so ended up spending 5-6 months every yr there anyway....and then even while here never immersed myself in american society or adopted american ways of thinking or lifestyle either....maintained my pakistani lifestyle n culture here too....not conciously even, but its just what came naturally to me n how i felt comfortable....

alhamdulillah i had a great time in college...i love my college to bits...and made some friends here who r very dear to my heart and i will inshallah always keep in touch with them..but..i always felt like a fish out of water here...

maybe it would have been different if my family had been here...but mera dil poori tarhaan yahan kabhee laga hi naheen tha aur shayad mein ne kabhee koshish bhee naheen kee dil laganay kee...

i always looked fwd to going home after getting done with my degree and alhamdulilalh now that i am abt to graduate inshallah am right now very excited abt going back...feel very liberated n relaxed as if a huge weight is being lifted off my shoulders and i'll finally be able to be living with my family....surrounded by my culture in my country again... and my mission of completing my education in the usa has been completed alhamdulillah...

as for the character Anis in the above article... i dont mean to be judgemental or have a holier than thou attitude...i can kind of see where he is coming from i guess...and i know its easy for me to pass judgements as a third party uninvolved observer not experiencing what he's going thru...but i think such a mindset where he thinks he can no longer 'get along' with his parents and siblings is just not right in my humble opinion...that thinking in itself is just wrong imho...Allah knows best...

one should never ever forget his religion and his family and his cultural roots...thats what forms his identity and the basis of his existence and a person should always always respect these....thats not saying that he should never change and adopt new things....but he should never leave these...coz these r what shaped him....and insan ye bhula de ga aur is ka ehteraam naheen keray ga toh woh kaheen ka naheen rahay ga aur na he us kee duniya mein apni koi izzat rahay gi...

also, i believe that when ppl say they could not adjust to the change, i think they need to try harder if they truly believe that the change they have made is indeed the right thing to do...changes happen in ppl's lives, life's full of changes for ppl...even those who live in the same routine and same house their whole lives...these changes these ppl face r nothing compared to changes others face who for example get diseases like cancer and aids...some ppl get hit by war....like the palestinians and kashmiris live under constant siege...some ppl get into accidents and get crippled....but i have seen many of these ppl also be brave and face it...then why can't we? when changes happen to ppl they need to adjust...for themselves...i understand its a tough decision for some but i think if they believe in the reasons behind their decision and r convinced in their hearts that what they did is right then they need to try and put their whole heart behind it and be brave and patient....and face and adapt to the consequent changes...and Allah helps them along the way then too and makes it easier for them :-)

Irem, Nadia:

Salams to both of you. There are some additional stories about the whole shifting in the link I pasted which maybe of interest. Speaking personally, I find it strange that it is harder for people to return to adjust to the West then it is for them to adjust to going back. It's not even a question of facilities or the culture, I have seen the same problem for Indians or Pakistanis who decided to go back. There is usually an initial painful adjustment phase to life in Pakistan or India.

On the other side, I have lived at various times in different countries, and I say this with absolute faith, that for me the place made little difference. My happiness was linked to being around the family I cared for rather then any specific place. So if they were in Timbuktoo I'd probably be happy there as well! If I miss Pakistan it's for the small and simple things, like hearing the Azan, the level of energy around Eid time etc. Many people come to America or Europe and cross that line where they lose themselves and forget where they've come from. For those people I think, going back and settling is impossible, because they carry so much emotional baggage it's impossible. At the same time, Pakistan has it's own share of problems, I've seen families go back because they want their kids brought up in a Sharfif atmosphere, but that doesn't really make a difference in the end. The same kids ended up being far worse in Pakistan then elsewhere! In the end like I said it's a question of family and your own principles and values.

well, evryone can has his own views but i'm really moving back ....iits not that i'm not aware of problems there but still to me there r many other things which r more important
i want to see my kids as Hafiz-e-Quraan .....not possible in berlin at least
i want to see my kids fortunate enough to hear azaan ......not possible here
i want to make a close bond of relationship nbetween my kids n other family ....not possible here
i want my kids to learn how enjoyable the festivals of eid are ...n how holy the month of ramzaan is ...,...here they can only remember
the significance of christmas n easter etc. etc.
i want my kids to enjoy the affection n love of their grandparents
n there r sooooo many other things

i think its not easy but one should clearly define his priorities...:)

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*Originally posted by Afia: *
well, evryone can has his own views but i'm really moving back ....iits not that i'm not aware of problems there but still to me there r many other things which r more important
i want to see my kids as Hafiz-e-Quraan .....not possible in berlin at least
i want to see my kids fortunate enough to hear azaan ......not possible here
i want to make a close bond of relationship nbetween my kids n other family ....not possible here
i want my kids to learn how enjoyable the festivals of eid are ...n how holy the month of ramzaan is ...,...here they can only remember
the significance of christmas n easter etc. etc.
i want my kids to enjoy the affection n love of their grandparents
n there r sooooo many other things

i think its not easy but one should clearly define his priorities...:)
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Every sentence is exactly my reason for wanting to return to Pakistan. I know Pakistan has many problems with it, but so too does every other country. Its all a matter of where the heart feels happiest, and every heart has its own way of feeling and thinking. My heart is where my grandparents are, whom i shared the happiest moments of my life with.

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...but i think such a mindset where he thinks he can no longer 'get along' with his parents and siblings is just not right in my humble opinion...that thinking in itself is just wrong imho...Allah knows best...
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so he should stay at home for ever? are his parents staying with his grand parents? once the person is on his own feet, why should he not be able to live independently if he so chooses, or is that an expectation only after he has been married and has kids?

*Originally posted by Afia: *

*i want to see my kids as Hafiz-e-Quraan .....not possible in berlin at least *

Make sure thet they dont get brainwashed into holier than thou banner waving book banging facists.

*i want to see my kids fortunate enough to hear azaan ......not possible here *

Make sure you explain to them why some peopel dont go to other masajid, and why they kill other people who belong to other sects. a la sipah e sahaba and sipah e mohammad folks.

*i want to make a close bond of relationship between my kids n other family ....not possible here *

realize and recognize that many famil members back in Pakistan may say what they want but they ahve no other options, as soon as theyget the options they may bail and go elsewhere :)

*i think its not easy but one should clearly define his priorities...:) *

Your children's education and all should be a priority for you too. just keep that in mind.

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**My happiness was linked to being around the family I cared for rather then any specific place.
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True. Well-stated, Zakk.
i completely forgot that point. Trying to imagine how i would feel if i didn't have the ones i love, around me... regardless of whichever place it is, it wouldn't afford me the same sense of peace and contentment i have by being around the ones i care for.

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*Originally posted by Fraudz: *
Make sure thet they dont get brainwashed into holier than thou banner waving book banging facists.
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i'm not sure about your experiences there....actually i don't know them at all ....but its not that bad there ....n even if it is ,,,i think too much depends on many many factors.......i know Allah knows my intention n he will make my path easier for me as always :)

Make sure you explain to them why some peopel dont go to other masajid, and why they kill other people who belong to other sects. a la sipah e sahaba and sipah e mohammad folks.

actually i am married to someone who is from different sect than me ...so we know what is tolerance n how it should be practiced...:)

realize and recognize that many famil members back in Pakistan may say what they want but they ahve no other options, as soon as theyget the options they may bail and go elsewhere :)

to me its more than enough that our close family loves all of us deeply ....infact when we visit pakistan for 1 month ...th next whole year of my kids is spent in those memories....n i always realise how much they r missing ....don't they deserve to enjoy that love n affection...??:)

Your children's education and all should be a priority for you too. just keep that in mind.

exactly ...!!!!thats my point :) infact education to me is not merely a degree from a well reputed uni but i'll feel it more than sufficient if my kids are educated enough to realise that we r in this world to prepare for hereafter n not wasting our precious time in temporary colour n fun around us :)

Anyway thanx for ur concerns :)

Majority of the reasons mentioned above are of emotional nature Your reasons include relatives, religion, culture, events, food. If that is all it took to live a happy life then no one should move out of Pakistan. Period!

Reality is it takes a lot more to survive and we compromise on certain close to heart things. The big question is why did you move out of Pakistan in the first place? How have things or your priorities changed now?

A common man needs a system, an infrastructure, a sense of security to survive. All the examples in Zakk’s article refer to that…a frustrated student who wants to see professionalism, a banker who had to bring change to survive, discrimination among students, uninviting culture and the list goes on. I think it takes a lot more to settle back in Pakistan than to move out of it.

We all know one has to buy your way out to live Pakistan …bribe left, right and center to make yourself heard and get your legal rights protected. Where does religion, relatives or food come in all this? Its just a shame really.

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Reality is it takes a lot more to survive and we compromise on certain close to heart things. The big question is why did you move out of Pakistan in the first place? How have things or your priorities changed now?

I think it takes a lot more to settle back in Pakistan than to move out of it.

We all know one has to buy your way out to live Pakistan …bribe left, right and center to make yourself heard and get your legal rights protected. Where does religion, relatives or food come in all this? Its just a shame really.
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You said it right. My conclusion is " duor ke dhools are always suhane" & neighbors grass is always greener"

Every one has their own priorities. I have been thinking of moving back for the last year & a half. Haven't made up my mind yet. I am scared of what may happen & afraid of adjustments that I may have to face. I think I need to develop full trust in God because if I have that I should not worry because HE is taking care of me here & will do that anywhere I live.

90% of the time the reason behind someone’s migration is economic & people who migrate are usually from the different spectrum of middle to upper middle class in their native country. There are few who migrate due to social/cultural issues or due to political/ religious freedom. Mostly it’s just better financial opportunities that attract one to western countries.

Now, which spectrum of the middle class you belong to will also tell how much you will have problems settling down in perdes or if you decide to move back.

For example, if you are a son of a rich general in Pakistan where you have one batman who polish your shoes, while another helps your Mom cook and few others who help do house hold chores ... coming to a western country where you have to do your own laundry, get in lines to do anything & even have to clean after yourself, is not something very attractive. And if such a person decides to go back home, it isn’t much of a problem. But if you were barely making it in Pakistan & are one of the many children of a small shop owner, a clerk or a schoolteacher, the western life seems like luxury. You come to appreciate the equality, the organization, the law & order etc. And obviously it becomes hell to move back after enjoying everything.