Resume question

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*Originally posted by irem: *
but what do u think abt this point i raised:

" i thought that these R my accomplishments, my extracurricular/leadership roles in college, i means its only been a yr since i graduated, and my current job is not a mangerial one, so how do i highlight the leadership experience i have had coz the jobs im applying for require someone who can hold a leadership role :/ "

im not applying for VP or CEO but like something that would require me to lead projects n stuff u know?

and actually mera current job itna BARA job nai hae u know like im not at some high post or something, kaafi normal sa job hae, thas-y mujhay samaj nai aa rai thee k us ko itna barHa charHa k kese pesh karoon u know? lekin i'll try to describe it in more detail inshallah :)

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Hi Irem,

So I take it that the kind of role you're applying to is along the lines of a Team/Project Lead? fair enough... a very logical progression.

o.k. there is a difference between Accomplishments and Accountabilities.... if you were a Project Manager for XYZ project and ABC Inc. - that's a designation that highlights your accountabilities.

If you tell me that your project helped the company in decreasing its costs, in training employees, in improving overall work environment etc. - those are accomplishments.

So jot down 8 to 10 things that you think are the end positive consequences of what you currently do... choose 4 or 5 salient ones from there and then eloquently express them.

Choti moti jobs bhi eloquently explain ki ja sakti heiN... I have done that a few times myself when I just started off in the industry.

Rest assured, I'm not too enthusiastic about a Leadership section that highlights extra curricular stuff... if anything, that section is only warranted for professional achievements.

the extracurricular stuff should go under a heading like "Interests & Activities" - sure you can embellish it further within that section to make it look more impressive and just hope that the person reading your resume actually looks at that stuff.

hmmm... I guess abhi ke liye itna hee warna you'll come after me with a gandasa (whatever that is, I've only heard the term :) )

Good Luck.

Umar thanx a lot :smiley:

yup thats the role i’m applying for inshallah :slight_smile: i’ll need the luck :smiley:

diff b/w accom & accoun —> i get that now, thanx for the explanation

  • u’ve provided some cool guidelines
    ima work on them inshallah :slight_smile:

and come on now why would i come after u with a gandasa???
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modern zamana hae i prefer machine guns :2guns: :smiley:

p.s. dont tell me u r a burger and dont know what a gandasa is :smack: it is this axe-like weapon that sultan rahi is holding in this pic :smiley:

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*Originally posted by irem: *
hmmm i c

thanks amelie

will putting college stuff under this "professional skills" thingie be ok?
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Yes, because instead of being specific to the job/role...u say

consistenly proven leadership capacity, demonstrated capacity to raise funding sources...etc.... does that make sense?

If you flower it up...you can make your student activiities really shine...gain the interest of the the job people...and get in for the interview...

I also agree with Umar Talib on putting the student activity specifics under other interest...also are you in any professional organizations? Did you get any awards?

What is the job description of the position you are going after? If you post it here then maybe that would help.
All I see right now is that you are going for a leadership role...you will be grilled in the interview on leadership related questions, therefore you should have something on your resume that you can relate to and give quick answers.... for e.g how you motivated the team, how you set goals, how you looked at the trees (details) while keeping in my mind the forest (big picture)...If you keep that in mind..writing your resume will become easier..u get the drift, ya?

For someone young who does not have a lot of employment experience, I think a Section called "Activities" is quite important. Change "Leadership" to "Activities." You leave in your activity with MSAN and stress how it evidenced your leadership qualities.

You are probably not going to set yourself apart from the masses of resumes because of your work experience. If your educational achievement gets you past the first test, your activities will be important in getting through door 2 for the interview.

Of course, "Muslim" will probably turn some potential employers off and you won't get the interview. But, you'd probably have to talk about the MSAN activity during the interview anyway. If it's going to turn someone off in the resume, then it will turn them off in the interview too. Why waste your time and their time by hiding something in the resume. If you get an interview with the disclosure about MSAN in it, you'll feel real comfortable going into the interview knowing that you have not been eliminated because of it. Therefore, you can freely stress the positive skills you obtained in that activity.

Sometimes, it's little things that make a difference. Take two identical resumes except that one person put in that he/she enjoys golf as an extracurricular activity. Your potential boss might be an avid golfer and he might like having employees who can share a company golf outing.

Well, what if you’ve never held a paying job before? :bummer:

thanks for the replies guys

Sara- i dont think thats something to worry abt coz we’re all in that boat when we’re applying for our first job. if you’ve had any work experience write that, otherwise write about the courses you took in college and your other activities. you can prolly put ur resume up for ppl to look at it in this forum.

myvoice, you’ve raised some great points thanks. i’m not trying to “hide” the Muslim thing. ofcourse not. but someone mentioned to me that putting something pertaining religion on my resume makes me look like i’m an extremist or something so that’s why i was asking, with all the hype that’s prevalent these days. ofcourse if it comes up in the interview i’d love to talk about it and hopefully when the potential employer meets me they’ll know i’m a pretty normal person (i think) :hehe:

Fayz i’m applying to a couple orgs so there is not just one job description actually. and yep thanks for the tips i “get the drift” :smiley:

amelie thats a great idea. thanks. will do.
am i in any professional organisations?
hmmmmm
nothing thats really big or famous, no
but yeah i totally forgot abt this, i did get some recognitions at my current job which i forgot to mention in my resume but ur post reminded me of em … thanks :smiley:

Irem, are you applying for a job in Pak or abroad (US, UK, Canada) ? Becoz if the job is in Pak then why would you leave out the “Muslim” part??? And if it’s not in pak, then um.. :blush:

Sara right now there's one job only that i'm applying to in the USA and thats only coz i LOVE that company but i dont think i'll actually do it, im just applying for the heck of it donno why

otherwise im applying to jobs in Pak

i think i'll reshape that whole section according to how amelie advised above though...

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*Originally posted by irem: *
Sara right now there's one job only that i'm applying to in the USA and thats only coz i LOVE that company but i dont think i'll actually do it, im just applying for the heck of it donno why

otherwise im applying to jobs in Pak

i think i'll reshape that whole section according to how amelie advised above though...
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oh alrite, i undrestand now.
well, i showed a career counselor at my college a draft of my resume. he pointed out several mistakes, but listing the Pakistani club and MSA wasn't one of them. I would leave in the MSA and stuff, coz in our school there's LOTS of ethnic/religious clubs and organizations with many members who aren't part of that particular ethnicity or religion.

hmm..i c...kewl :)

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Irem, I know it’s frustrating struggling with your CV as a fresher but please dont show up on your first interview like this.

Im sorry Im no help. I struggled like this early in my career but as soon as I realised that I was living in the middle east, I stopped bothering. All you need here for a decent job is a little" “Wastaa”, no sh!t.

So you don’t have a job description? :slight_smile: You do realize that you tailor your resume to the company needs right? I’m not surprised that you are not ‘focused’ :-p …you do all the hard work of writing resumes but apply to companies just for the ‘heck’ of it… :slight_smile: that could lead to frustration..but hey! u r used to it :mocking: good luck!

:hoonh:

you asked for it:

running after Fayz with gandasa

p.s. ofcourse i will tailor my resume lekin im only at the redisigning resume phase now. the looking for jobs and finding ones that i like will be the next step. one thing at a time u see lekin woh phase bhee ayay ga zaroor ayay ga inshallah :smiley:

p.p.s. and i AM focused!!!

HAHAHAAHAHAH why not :stuck_out_tongue: i think it’ll impress my employers, and if they dont give me the job i can threaten them with dire consequences :smiley:

p.s. th waasta stuff is prolly true abt all Muslim/eastern cultures, but merit does count too so dont lose hope.
good luck :slight_smile:

Thanks Irem,

If merit was important, I would have been promoted 3 years ago. Im sick, tired and exhausted by now.... That's why concentrating on other "talents". Seriously thinking of applying for cabin crew. If nothing else, atleast I would be able to fulfil my wish to travel around the world which is impossible in this one.

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*Originally posted by irem: *
p.s. th waasta stuff is prolly true abt all Muslim/eastern cultures, but merit does count too so dont lose hope.
good luck :-)
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