Reply to Watcher post on Muta

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Sorry i havent been keeping up with the posts lately due.

Did u look at the references i posted above, Y r u blaming us brother, how many versions have u ppl edited to hide the truth yet brother, btw i got the info from www.al-islam.org it was some of the stuff i found while searching the site for muta.

Tell me brother that does khaleefa has power to declare something allowed by Quran and Prophet to be haraam, can u justify me that brohter. did u read the Quranic Ayat and stuff i posted. Keep aside if i let my sister do it or not, Tell me wats wrong if islam allowed it.

Its not us brother, its ur those corrupted ppl u follow, denying Holy Prophet’s hadith at Ghadeer - e - Khum who has corrupted islam.

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Bro Insaniyat dont waste your time on DEVIL’s advocate

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It was declared haram by PROPHET mohammad not khalifa Umar. Its the excuse that your imams and devient scholars use to make you follow their corrupt and Jewish ways.

You people are known to fabricate hadith about umar and other sahaba, there is no question that the hadith that exist in your books(the same books which contradict with quran saying your imaams have their own choice when they die.) are fabricated and are wrong. You have nothing in your hadith but expect which slanders and defames sahaba on basis of hate and nothing more.

There is no logic and reasoning in your hadith books, everything is mixed up. In one hadith it could be praising Prophet MOhammad and in the other it could be telling lies on him. THat is a shame.

Would you allow your sister to perform mut'ah with someone for 20 mins, and never see him again?

Take it easy.

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Looking forward to another incosistent, illogical, hypocratic and contradicting shite reply on muta…

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Allah has told us not to follow the religion of our forefathers. This means, don't take Islam blindly.. ask questions, do your own research and everything will be clear.

In my own family we have practices which are not totally Islamic, but have 'Culture' blended with Islam.

If you really want to find out about Muta then why don't you look at all the Quranic ayat, hadith and any other information you may find. Don't just agree that it is ok to do because your forefathers said so.

Jazakallah

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Some hadith prohibiting Muta:

There is a plethora of statements of the Messenger (s.a.w.) which forbid temporary marriage, some of the Hadith include:

According to Sabra Bin Ma’had AlJuhany who said: I was with my cousin when we passed by a woman who liked my youth and a robe which my companion had. So she offered temporary marriage with the robe as the dowry. I married her and spent the night with her. In the next morning, I went to the mosque and heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.) saying: ‘O people, I had permitted you temporary marriage before, whoever of you has any part in it currently must part with her, and do not take back anything which you may have given them, as Allah Exalted and Majestic has forbidden it until the day of resurrection.’ "

[narrated by Muslim, Abu Dawood, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, and Darimi]

Ali Bin Abi Taleb (r.a.a.) said that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.) had forbidden temporary marriage on the day of Khaybar and had forbidden the eating of the meat of domestic camels.

*[narrated by bukhary, Muslim, Tirmizy, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, Tahawy, Shafi’i, Bayhaqy, and Hazimy]
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According to Sufyan Althawry according to Isma’il Bin Umayya according to Alzahry according to Alhassan Bin Mohammad according to Ali (r.a.a.) who said to a man: “You are a straying person, the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.) has forbidden temporary marriage and the meat of domestic camels on the day of Khaybar.”

*[Narrated by Muslim and Bayhaqy] *

According to Misdad Bin Masarhad according to 'AbdulWareth according to Isma’il Bin Ummaya according to Alzahry who said: "We were with 'Umar Bin ‘Abdul’Aziz and we recalled temporary marriage, a man called Rabee’ Bin Sabra said to him: ‘I testify that according to my father that it happened that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.) had forbidden it on the farewell pilgrimage.’ "

*[narrated by Abu Dawood and Imam Ahmad] *

Amigo,

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CoolDude, these people have NOT read any of their hadith books, that is why they are upset and shocked to see the filthy stuff which is found in their hadith books. Its shame to see, people who have no knowledge of their own religion coming here and debating matters which they know not.

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Take it easy.

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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

[This message has been edited by The Watcher (edited January 10, 2001).]

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[quote]
Originally posted by The Watcher:
**It was declared haram by PROPHET mohammad not khalifa Umar. Its the excuse that your imams and devient scholars use to make you follow their corrupt and Jewish ways.

You people are known to fabricate hadith about umar and other sahaba, there is no question that the hadith that exist in your books(the same books which contradict with quran saying your imaams have their own choice when they die.) are fabricated and are wrong. You have nothing in your hadith but expect which slanders and defames sahaba on basis of hate and nothing more.

There is no logic and reasoning in your hadith books, everything is mixed up. In one hadith it could be praising Prophet MOhammad and in the other it could be telling lies on him. THat is a shame.

Would you allow your sister to perform mut'ah with someone for 20 mins, and never see him again?

Take it easy.

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Watcher did u even bothered to read what i posted, ur own books contradicts what u have said. Y blaming us brother look at urself first, I posted some references from Quran and hadith's(from book u belief authentic), so is their a contradiction in ur own books, Please read first before u start saying crap and accusing others.

Tell me one thing brother u called an act practiced in Islam and was allowed by Prophet a legal prostitution. Without knowing what was the intention of that clause in Islam. So what do u call going to Mecca and taking 7 rounds of Qaaba, Now Whats the reason behind that, and going to Hajr-e-aswaat now what will u call that. You

Its God who knows the truths.

Yours own books testifies Ghadeer-e-Khum, and the hadiths of Prophet to follow Quran and Ahleybait. So why do u follow Abu Bakr as the khaleefa, stop accusing us brother and look at ur own beliefs first
May Allah show u the right path

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My own books testify what where?

Your talking non-sense out of your own head. Bring me some proofs and rational thought man.

I don’t wanna debate on your mere assumptions and allegations: “oh your books say that” and “your books have this and that” … come on bring me some references, some naration #'s some page #'s some volume #'s.

You can’t debate like this with calls of kufr on me without any solid references to back ya up.

BTW: When I post from your books, they have EVERYTHING you need to see where/who/what/when is written in that book.
I give you: Book name, Volume #, Page #, Narration #.

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Mut’ah was allowed by Prophet, than disallowed by Prophet by the WILL OF ALLAH till the day of judgment. I gave you hadith on that from hadith books.

But you did not answer my question: Would your sister practice Mut’ah with me or someone else for 20 mins, 2 hours, 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years, depending on the time limit on the contract???

Thank You.

PS: Don’t call me “brother” if you are wanting to be polite, call me “friend.” Thank YOU!

Take it easy.

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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

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Talk about bad manners

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Insanyat: Provide references brother as you have made statements in your post that I would like to see backed up.

Jazakallah