Re: Removal of jewish settlers from there homes
^^ You mean when the UN carved out Israel? Or when Israel was attacked from all sides?
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Yeah, I guess that was UN, you know the same one who has called these settlements illegal. You know the same UN that passed resolutions against Israel, yet were never enforced.....but we had to go get Saddam....
On a side note, I guess those displaced palestanians did not have rights....
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OK, fine. Lets start accepting UN resolutions in order. Repeat after me (all arab states too), I recognize Israel and do not want to push Jews into the ocean. All other resolutions sort of spring from that eh?
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Actually not i wasn't the UN. To paraphhrase myvoice. The UNGA has not legal authority to do jack. You see the UNGA resolution did not create Israel. It gave it political status. Israel was created out of former colonial lands.
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And you are sidestepping the whole issue of using homicide bombers to achieve political objectives. So I’ll ask again – would you support Mexicans trying to re-claim their land they lost in war by blowing up taco joints in Texas?
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The difference is...lost in war...Israeli settlemenst are mostly built on land that was occupied illegaly ...displacing thousands of palestanians.....besides mexicans are claiming their land back one illegal immigrant at a time...you can thank your political party for that or your local chapter of LULAC.
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haha! Ask Musharraf’s folks weren’t forced and instead given garlands of motia (a nice smelling flower). Ask those non-Muslim residents of Karachi and Lahore that they were served “degs” (Big pots of curry enough to feet a wedding party) when they were told “bye bye” in 1947.
Man! These MAToos sure have sucked his brain dry. God knows what happened to him in Hoojra that he says Hindus weren’t forced out. Musharraf wasn’t forced. Crow is white, crow is white.
Damn MAToos.
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I have to agree with OG, MV, Semi and UTD on this issue.
Sharon has taken the initiative completely with this move. Would be interesting to see how the voters and Jewish extremists will react to it of course. Sharon is a very brave/stupid man. What is the odds on him making the end of this year alive?
The Palestinians are on the back foot and I have no hope of them to get out of the corner they are painted into. This will buy Sharon and Israel enough time to complete the "wall of shame" and stall on any further issues.
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Just for the record let us all take note of a couple things. First, the Jewish settlers are religious zealots. Second, through the second day the IDF is still unarmed, and there has been minimal violence. Acts of civil disobedience are getting worldwide Media coverage.
If this had been the elected government of a Muslim country evicting Muslims, how many would have died already? Beyond the tactical victory we have refered to above, there is a much larger tactical victory being won here. Jews are winning a victory. The nature of their protests is showing the world that even under great stress and conflict that they are people of peace. It's not like the settlers don't have plenty of weapons. they could barricade themselves and fight it out for days. The scenes of civil disobedience are powerful and appropriate. But peaceful. People are being evicted from Temples, religious sites, and STILL there are no weapons and deaths.
Not only is Sharon winning today, Jews are winning today.
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OG lest we forget, the media is only allowed where the IDF allows it.
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Are you kidding? The place is crawling with media.
Al Jazeera is following this wall to wall. All over the world people are viewing these evictions live, it is very compelling viewing, particuarly on a slow summer news day. Who in the Arab world would have predicted that they would have bee rooting for the IDF? Who would have believed that Israeli troops would have been evacuating Synagogues? This is obviously a unilateral decision. Hamas cannot claim that they "won" this victory, when there are so many struggling to stay.
This is a complete Jewish victory. It is a media event that will say to the world, Jews are capable of peaceful protest, and peaceful governance. You have no idea how well this will play in the Western world...
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OG tell me which settlements exactly had media coverage. Because Fox, CNN, CBC et al are showing the same settlement.
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Pumpkin,
Over half the settlements are empty. The one being shown now is the largest and most hard core. You cannot argue selective viewing, or selective reporting here. If there were violence anybody with a cell phone camera would sell it in a New York second.
Whats more, Al Jazeera is beaming this live, almost certainly to a stunned Arab world.
Judaisim, the Religion of Peace. That is the video message that is being broadcast today. You have no idea how successful these images will be.....
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It is good to see Israel finally abiding by some UN resolutions, and dragging the Jew fanatics out of Palestinian land. Onto the West Bank, Jerusalem, Golan and more. 
In the end the bravery and patience of 1.3 million Gazan Palestinian’s has overcome brutal Israeli occupation, while when it came down to it the fanatical Jews just cowered away. So satisfying to see these bigots and terrorists being kicked in the backsides, and by their own people as well. It’s even more amusing to see the denial syndrome affecting their heartbroken zionist supporters. 
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Bye, bye. 
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This is a perfect example of cunning and wicked nature of the jews. So they finally move out of the land that was never theirs to begin with and keep increasing and building the settlements in West Bank at break neck pace. They show the world that they are peace loving, WTF. Show the world how you are building illegal housing for more vermins in West Bank. Get the eff out of the land that you have been occupying illegaly for 50 plus years.
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Oh its cunning. Walking away from land that was captured in a war and daring the Palestinains to make a go of it is bloody brilliant. when the place convulses in violence the Isrealis will laugh and laugh.....
Oddly enough MyVoice and I suggested the same type of civil disobedience tactics for the Palestinians years ago. We had threads and threads of "media based" protests, from acts of self immolation if you are suicidally oriented, to legitimate targets such as vacant corporate headquarters at night time, to railroads, gas station, and electrical boxes. All we got was rants about root causes occupation, and justifications for killing innocents.
You are now seeing the power of the media harnessed by the Jews. Brilliant. They have siezed the high ground and galvanized the "difference" between them and the Palestinians. Do not discount the power of these images. They will last in the memory of Westerners.
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Oh I know OG, that is what the agenda or shall I say propoganda is based on. Hide the truth and throw some sand in the eyes of the world. That is how its done right.
May I ask you how on earth would the palestanains have accomplished the same when they cannot even go to work without some jewish ahole sniffing their arse?
P.S. This land was not captured in a war, it was given as a gift by our lapdog Britian to these zionists to create havoc on earth.
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You are no history buff. The land in the Gaza and the land in the West Bank upon which the settlements exist or did exist was most certainly not part of the land given to Israel by the Partition. The West Bank was initially seized and annexed by Jordan which tried to make all the inhabitants there Jordanians. (No talk then from the Arab world about illegal occupation that I recall. No suicide bombers unleashed upon Amman.). Israel took it much later from Jordan during war.
Hate is an interesting thing. It causes brain cells to disappear and permits some to rewrite and believe in a false paralell universe.
Old Man: Thanks for putting in your two cents. To recognize realistically what is occuring right now is not the same thing as being anti-Palestinian, pro-zionist or anything else. I know OG and I are both anti-Settlement and both pro-Palestinian homeland. I was even part of a business that spent (and lost) its hard earned American dollars to see if we could help economic development in the region for the benefit of Palestinians as well as Israelis. We lost time and money with the outbreak of the current Intifada.
It’s painful to watch the Palestinians always do precisely the wrong thing at the wrong time. They have set back their own cause by decades. Palestinians and their supposed supporters need to try new tactics and that stems from trying to think outside the paradigm they seem locked into. Until they do that, Israel will always trump them because Israel just plays the game one hell of a lot smarter.