Remember all those news about ISI chief canceling visit to Britain?

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When Cameron made disparaging remarks about Pakistan then everyone started criticizing Zardari for not canceling his visit to Britain. At the same time news also emerge in various media outlets that ISI chief Pasha had in fact canceled his own visit to MI5 and MI6 as a form of protest to Cameron’s remarks.

So people started making comparison between Zardari and Pasha; criticizing Zardari for going ahead with the visit, and praising Pasha for showing “honor” through the canceled visit.

Now news has emerge that ISI chief never canceled any visit, because there was no visit scheduled in the first place.

It was just another ploy from anti-PPP media propaganda machine.

When I see examples like this then I start questioning everything that I hear about PPP. They are not exactly angels, but there are lots of unfounded false rumors perpetrated by the very same people.

What is also interesting is that if no such visit was scheduled then why did military spokesmen kept quiet the whole week when such reports were circulating around the world?

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/19-isi-chiefs-uk-visit-was-not-scheduled,-says-pm-680-hh-06
ISI chief’s UK visit was not scheduled, says PM

ISLAMABAD: A week after the cancellation of a reportedly planned visit by ISI DG Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha to London in protest against disparaging remarks made by British Prime Minister David Cameron against Pakistan, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said on Thursday that no such visit by the head of the agency had been scheduled.

“No high-profile visit of the ISI was scheduled for the UK,” the prime minister told journalists at the Prime Minister’s House.

“Had there been any scheduled high-profile visit of the ISI, I would have been informed about it,” Mr Gilani said.

Soon after the controversial remarks made by the British prime minister, reports appeared in the media that the ISI chief had cancelled his visit to UK. It put pressure on President Asif Ali Zardari to also call off his visit to Britain. Now the president is facing severe criticism for undertaking the visit.

The prime minister’s claim that no visit by the ISI chief appears to be correct because ISPR never spoke about any such visit or cancellation. The ISPR, which promptly reacts to any information about the military, kept quiet on reports of ISI chief’s visit.

However, sources told Dawn that a team of ISI officials was scheduled to visit Britain, but Lt-Gen Shuja Pasha was not supposed to be in the delegation.

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Re: Remember all those news about ISI chief canceling visit to Britain?

Some people don’t want to see past the lies and propaganda.

They are happy to start screaming when they read anything that has the word Bhutto or Zardari in it, no matter how much of a lie it is - such as the recent ‘reports’ saying Bilawal Bhutto is to launch his career in Birmingham’.

Gullibe fools :cb:

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not surprised at all. this is what I expected.

either the trip wasn't scheduled and even if it was, it's easy for the ISI/army to pull these stunts to further damage the PPP's image. did these ISI guys do the same when Pakistan was humiliated by Bush, etc in the rangeen mizaaj commando's time? hypocrisy as usual. reminds me of when corps commanders got so horny when they saw Kerry Lugar and issued retarded statements. well were you general shaabs sleeping when Musharraf was getting aid from the same US? where was your self respect/ghaiarat then? or does it only come alive when a democratic govt comes into power? is it okay to accept aid when the generals are in power... but not okay when a democratic govt is in power especially if it is the PPP. it is okay for Musharraf to hand over Kashmir on a platter to India... not a peep out of these valiant generals. but as soon as a democratic govt tries for peace with India - be it PPP or PML-N, all the generals all of a sudden remember Kashmir and how important it is.

pathetic!

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Regardless of the exact truth about ISI chief's visit, Zardari should not have visited UK at a time when close to 5 million people have been affected by recent floods

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even the anti zardari protests being mentioned were only partly anti zardari, it was more anti WOT

those who think WOT is popular should bring their heads out of the sand and take the hint

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wow... trying to extract mileage for terrorists even from this eh.

I must say I have no clue how or why a supporter of terrorists/TTP like you isn't banned on this forum. this is a Pakistani forum where people like you who support terrorists spreading anarchy and death in Pakistan should be banned.

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lol :D

its all in your imagination

im like a mouse in a jungle, fascinated by the drama willfully conjured up by isi to retain peoples interest

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What's "WOT"?

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^ :smack: war on terror :slight_smile:

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^ Ok. Thanks.

What does it have to do with the topic at hand?

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The topic is not about whether Zardari should have visited or not. It is about lies and propaganda shown by media to malice PPP or Zardari one way or another. And example given here is about ISI chief's supposed cancellation of a supposed visit.

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his point is that as a supporter of terrorists like TTP... he is trying to prove that people who were protesting against Zardari were actually protesting against the operations being conducted against his beloved terrorists.

he is the unofficial spokesman for terrorist organizations like TTP, etc.

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As with any country in the word, when there is a natural disaster, the Army of the country provides the manpower, and leads the effort, as the govt directs it to do.

Now the Army chief is leaving the country when the country needs the Army the most??

I gurantee you the media will not jump on this as they did when Zardari left the country - even though Gilani is the head of govt.

RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS), General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani left for UAE on Saturday on a short working visit.

According to ISPR the Army Chief during his visit will meet His Highness General Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi, Deputy Supreme Commander of the UAE Armed Forces and Chairman of the Abu Dhabi Executive Council

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this is what i was refering to: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzuYSL6Uoq4 read the (moderate) banners

a slightly different prospective www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn838y2KGJk

and same with the news of the isi chief cancelling his visit. it was popularised as a throwback to america, not as a diplomatic move against british comments.

dont be blind to what YOUR people want, luckily they dont want war, they want peace!

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the country you claim to love is spewing out love for the afghan taliban everyhour, at the same time as accusing ttp of being raw/cia backed to popularise the war on them!

and you expect nobody to notice!

i do realise my job as a laymen is to consume the propaganda being fed but it stinks too bad. especially when coming from your master zaid hamid, king of the nationalists (nazis in waiting)

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People who "popularized" cancellation of his visit were blatant LIARS. Because there was no such visit scheduled in the first place.
And that is the point of this thread.

You can not justify these lies by raising other issues. It is not about terrorism or Talibanic fasadis. It is about false lies perpetrated by media against PPP.

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You do seem to be very capable of consuming the propaganda, even when clear evidence is shown to you that the propaganda is a lie.

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first of all, if these bearded morons think the Pak govt is a kufr govt then wtf are they doing in the UK? what is the UK? is it an Islamic khilafat? is it imperative that if you’re a religious moron, then you must also be a hypocrite?

I bet these bearded idiots support retarded ideas like khilafat, etc. and I bet more than half of them also live on welfare in the UK. so, I frankly don’t really care why they were protesting. these Hizbultahrir type clowns should go get themselves jobs. the Pak govt is NOT a kaafir govt. it is the democratically and constitutionally elected govt. and these bearded retards can shove their religion up their behinds. no Pak govt is an enemy of Islam though religiously inspired thugs and terrorists do think of Pakistan as their enemy. in which case Pakistan has every right to use the Pak army to destroy these vermin.

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And we know how false this excuse is. People might have considered this excuse if this union against PPP had started after 2001. But in fact such lies and rumors have been going on from the day Amirul Munafiqeen Zia died. Remeber IJI. The umbrella party of all anti-PPP Taliban-minded parties started by ISI in 1988.
So there have been a group of people both in media and armed services who would go any length they can to malign PPP leadership. Not that PPP people are angels, but lies are lies.

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first of all, personally speaking, I do not support the taliban - be they Pakistani or Afghan. they're all jaahil murderers as far I am concerned. however, my immediate concern is the terrorists who are causing destruction in Pakistan. Afghanistan can shove off and deal with its own problems. if the US wants to destroy the Afghan taliban, then more power to them.

secondly, even if the ISI is being foolish enough to play the cold war era games by supporting Afghan taliban, even then, no Pakistani can use that to justify defending/supporting terrorists in Pakistan.

I absolutely detest Zaid Hamid. I've posted many times about how much I dislike that man. but yes, I am a nationalist. this religious bakbak, one ummah, jihad nonsense is not for me. I rejected that propaganda a long time ago.

which brings me to you... what are you? I'm positive that you said some time ago that you were from Kabul or something and are now settled in Pakistan which would explain a whole lot. biting the hand that feeds you as usual. if you're not Afghan and you are Pakistani, I must say I cannot believe that there is a grown, educated man who lives in Pakistan, enjoys the facilities (no matter how meager) the state of Pakistan provides and yet supports traitors who are hellbent on destroying the very same state that you benefit from.

I guess I'll never get past all the hypocrisies of the religious folk.