If Islam protects the rights of minorities, why Muslims do not protest against the religious intolerance in Saudi Arabia….in the most sacred land of Islam?
Two Indians among eight Christians arrested in Saudi Arabia
Eight Protestant Christians, including two Indians, have been arrested in Saudi Arabia, the Rome-based religious news agency Asianews has reported.
The Saudi religious police, the Muttawa, arrested an evangelical Christian from India who was in Saudi Arabia on a tourist visa and seized a Bible and addresses, which led to the arrest of seven other members of an evangelical Protestant group, the institute said on Wednesday.
Also arrested were Vijay Kumar, 45, from India, an immigrant worker in Saudi Arabia since 1994 whose apartment was used for Christian meetings, said the Asianews web site, which is run by the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions.
On April 23, the Muttawa arrested 40 Pakistani nationals for celebrating a Catholic mass in a private house.
All forms of non-Muslim worship are banned in Saudi Arabia, which is home to Islam’s holiest shrines.
Subhanallah, I do not know why there should be any disturbance or criticism about this.
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) actually ordered all infidels/kafirs to be kicked out of the Arabian Peninsula... so the criticism should be as to why Saudi Arabia allows these people to come to Saudi Arabia, not why they are disallowed to practice their religion. By Allah, they should never be allowed to enter the Holy Arabian Peninsula, so baring them from worshipping their false taghuts is not a big deal, and is a step in the right direction.
^ restriction is only for two holy cities. i.e mecca and madina. Other wise Saudi Araibia does not bar people of other faiths from entering in the country
Suadi intollorance has nothing to do with Islam, Just like Turkish attroticities on faithful muslims has nothing to do with Islam. Both countries are criticised pretty regularly.
It is traditional monarchy. At least Non-muslims are not barred from driving, but muslim women are !
What about slavery system flourishing in Saudi Arab? Women r being trafficed from poor countries, and made house servents plus as 'londis' (sex salves)???
^^ they would provide all justification for slaves :)
In Karachi, I once talked to a JI Nazim of my area. The guy was engineer from Dawood college(a dumb college, neverthless, but he was engineer, mind it). I was in matric, i guess. He was trying to convince me of the benefits of slavery. He told me, "look, how blacks r treated in west. Wouldn't it be better if they r made slaves, and their due rights restored?"
This reflects the retards, who become nazims of Jmaat-e-Islami in Karachi. That is one reason, i was in jolly mood, when I heard Aslam Mujahid was killed.
Saudi is a corrupt monarchy where all kinds of crimes take place by the royal idiots but i cannot see how these secualr idiots on guppshup complaining about sex slaves when they are the ones residing in the United Snakes where women can be bought and sold for a few dollars hypocrisy just smacked a hammer on thier heads.
As for the topic of religious freedom this shows clearly the double standards of western politics and policy. They claim they want to implement freedom and hypocrisy sorry i mean democracy saudi arabia is convenient tool for the yanks and brits oil is flowing so issue of freedom and in this case religous freedom is kept away hidden and not on the agenda yet in other nations it will be used this is typical from capitalists they use the words democracy and freedom as nice words and only when it if benefit for them that is why it is bankrupt and crazy to implement there corrupt systems.
You have to be there to really understand how it works. They don’t like any gatherings of any kind with a (for the lack of words) corporate type agenda. If muslims are getting together for a debate about muslim subjects at hand - they will be seized and probably deported right away.
The number of saudis are xtremely limited when compared to the foreign public. In order to maintain peace they do not allow any get together with political / religious agenda.
It has nothing to do with islam, its just the way things are done there.
Is it right / wrong is another debate. They have developed a society which seems to be working for them (anybody who has worked there, will no doubt will love to go back and stay there). why change if it ain’t broken?
Another thing worth mentioning is that just like N.American are very ignorant (and naive) of what is happening in the world - Virtually everyone else in Saudia is also naive about what people outside think.
There are more people from Philipines and India than from muslim countries when I left from there. The average dream of having two kids and living happily with the family does come true over there (since you dont’ have to deal with drugs, sex and similar type issues for your kids).
I read and think how Jihadis find reasons to oppose Indian Govt in Kashmir…Muslims there make gatherings, participate in demonstrations etc…I think many Govts have a lot to learn from Islamic Kingdome of Saudi Arabia.
Quranic ayath refers to Haram Sharif only, while different schools of thoughts hv different interpertations. Hijaz restriciton is for Shafi school of thought.
Slavery camps hmmmm so you have been to the slavery camps in saudi then thats good you must be some expert! As for the US tens if not hundreds of thousands of women are prostitutes and virtual slaves to their pimps and if you want to visit them boy thats desperation.
Your opposed to what exactly just the support of saudi by the west or you against democrohypocrisy when the western governments choose to calls for there human rights when its convenient for them if that is the case then it clearly shows the western secular systems are bankrupt and based on material benefit and have no value for human life at all its just a pretty word they throw around now and again?
In some states, prostitution is illegal. In some, it is legal. Women and men become prostitute out of their free will. If someone is forced, it is criminal. Pimps and smugglers r arrested and prosecuted.
For a record, I dont think prostitution is bad. It is forced prostitution and slavery that I am against.
In Saudi Arab, prostitution is illegal, but their is no channel for women and camel kids to dial 911.
Yes, it is hypocrisy by US and UK. Their foreign policy is a mockery of justice and spreding/supporting democracies. But, their jusdiacial system for their citizens and the ppl who come here, is probably the best…certainly much better than Saudi Arab
heheh now you are just want to start a useless flame war with me. Plz don’t quote me if you intend to do that. You have enf fights running in other threads. I don’t have time for that …
I will try my best, not to reply to you in any thread.
In the heat of the flaming arguement the underlying question seems lost. Does Islam really say don't tolerate non-muslims anywhere...including mecca and medina? or does the saudi government (if u can call it that) impose such rules? whichever does that should be rectified by all means - such institutional discrimination is barbaric