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There were prophet's wives who didn't believe (Hazrat Nooh & Luut (as) ) and the Pharaoh's wife is declared to be a righteous woman by Quran. I** pondered why didn't they divorce their spouses?** Why couldn't they change them to believe? .
I can answer your frist question. Because in their shariat, marrying a non-muslim/kaafir was allowed. In Islam, it is not so you have to break your nikah if your spouse turns away from islam.
In Islam, it is not so you have to break your nikah if your spouse turns away from islam.
Prove it. I think we should be careful in making such broad general statements on Islam. It's not as simple as leaving your spouse just because he turns away from Islam. What is meant by turning away?
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TLK, if you read the story it wasn't that they married their non-believing wives. Hazrat Noah's wife after his claim to prophethood didn't believe in him and is considered responsible for making his own son go against him. Didn't join him on "the boat".
Hazrat Lut (as) wife decided to stay back with her relatives when he migrated from the city after being told by Allah that the city will be destroyed.
So the pondering part is, how could they have kept their marriage with someone who didn't believe in them? That requires a lot of patience!
There were prophet's wives who didn't believe (Hazrat Nooh & Luut (as) ) and the Pharaoh's wife is declared to be a righteous woman by Quran. I pondered why didn't they divorce their spouses? Why couldn't they change them to believe?
So what I take from it is that your spouse owe his or her belief to Allah, not you. They will be judged on their own account. I may encourage them to do good (how ever I define it to be) and pray for them but only Allah is the final decider.
I believe that I am responsible for how I treat my wife and with what intentions, regardless of how she treats me in return.
Prophets (AS) life was not only there for our guidance, but also their life was to set an example for the world (until the day of judgement). if the Prophets (AS) would had divorced their wives then no one can associate those women with the Prophets. so the way i interpret is in front of ALLAH SWT's commands, no one else can precedence over the other. whether its your wife (soul mate) or your son (Prophet Ibrahim's son, Prophet Ismail), you have to do what you are asked to do and that is follow Quran.
Prove it. I think we should be careful in making such broad general statements on Islam. It's not as simple as leaving your spouse just because he turns away from Islam. What is meant by turning away?
Lol, no I dont need to prove it, You are the one making bold claims by denying this ruling, not me. You should prove your claim.
So the pondering part is, how could they have kept their marriage with someone who didn't believe in them? That requires a lot of patience!
I agree with u totally. It does require an amazing amount of patience.
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...the former.
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Like someone else mentioned, I think that just as I would like my children to face Allah swt on the day of judgement with confidence, that their book of good deeds outweighs their book of bads, if I love my spouse I will work hard to bring him closer to deen, especially if I am already practising. Now judgement is left for Allah alone, but if you ain't doing namaz, you ain't doin' it because namaaz isn't something you do in your head or hiding in the closet, eh. So while true iman cannot be seen, certain actions can, and even if the niyat isn't there initially, the action will change the intention. I do not believe people saying "oh it is always our intention, BUT"....but what? I really don't have the time or need to check people outside my home, but I feel it is my responsibility as a mom/wife to check what's going on at home (given that I myself am doing all those things).
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Nagging does no good.
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…well for some people it doesn’t. ![]()
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I didn't mean you have to nag someone till they get it, but one needs to take interest and shouldn't ignore such matters.
Most people may not agree with me but I think relationships in our community have become weaker and people are going astray because we've adopted this "let other people alone" or "to each their own" philosophies to the next level. Even parents are afraid or don't care to remind their kids for fear of being uncool. Result: just look around ya.
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hmmmmmmmmm you sound correct but.....may I'm being hyper sensitive right now.
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religion or degree of religious devotion is one of those things that couples should agree on before they get married. I can't see ppl with differing views on religion lasting together for too long.
religion or degree of religious devotion is one of those things that couples should agree on before they get married. I can't see ppl with differing views on religion lasting together for too long.
Yes I agree. But it's hard to know too much in arranged marriages. During the "courtship" you are at your best behavior usually.
Yes I agree. But it's hard to know too much in arranged marriages. During the "courtship" you are at your best behavior usually.
valid point... but ppl should be open and honest at that stage as well... and if they're not religious or if it's really important to them, then they should communicate that as well as their expectations of their partner to the other party. it's an important topic (it's just as important as discussing career ambitions, kids, etc...) and should be discussed openly and honestly... otherwise there will be problems for both parties later on.
I can answer your frist question. Because in their shariat, marrying a non-muslim/kaafir was allowed. In Islam, it is not so you have to break your nikah if your spouse turns away from islam.
by turning away you mean it literally, right? as in someone who denounces it, becomes an atheist or changes religion etc? as compared to someone who is just being lazy about namaz or roza...that is not grounds for divorce or is it? just wanted to clarify.
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Hopefully you married someone you are religiously comfortable with.
Problem comes in when you change after marriage...
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When it's not religion it's something else.....you can't really escape nagging in any relationship.
by turning away you mean it literally, right? as in someone who denounces it, becomes an atheist or changes religion etc? as compared to someone who is just being lazy about namaz or roza...that is not grounds for divorce or is it? just wanted to clarify.
oh yes, turning away completely like becoming murtad (atheist or change religion). The guy who does not pray or not do roza out of being lazy or carelessness is still a Muslim.