Re: Relation between PPP and PML(N): Would it last?
Didnt Musharraf appoint his bhanja as the ISI chief? 
**In past, Nawaz goons use to torture Zardari in the name of corruption (Nawaz goons also tried to kill Zardari in prison) … now it seems that table has turned and it is time for Zardari to payback in same currency. **I do not know but from the news, this is what it looks like.
DAWN 2nd Sept 2008
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%2…pen+nawaz+cases
NAB may reopen Nawaz cases
Tuesday, 02 Sep, 2008 | 16:35 PKT
ISLAMABAD: Prosecutors said on Tuesday that they are pressing ahead with corruption cases against opposition leader Nawaz Sharif, a move his lawyer called politically motivated as the presidential race grew increasingly testy.
Zulfiqar Ahmed Bhutta, a top prosecutor with the National Accountability Bureau, confirmed on Tuesday that it moved late last month to challenge a court decision to indefinitely adjourn a set of cases against Sharif, also a former prime minister.
The cases stretch back years, and their accusations against Sharif include money laundering, loan defaults and accumulation of wealth beyond his known sources of income.
“It appears to be aimed at using the accountability courts against Nawaz Sharif,” said the opposition leader’s lawyer, Khwaja Haris. “It appears to be used for political ends.”
Zardari has garnered the support of several political factions and parties in recent days, making him a virtual lock for the presidency. His party aides are calling him the “consensus candidate,” even though Sharif’s party, the second largest, opposes him.
Information Minister Sherry Rehman, a top Zardari party member, insisted on Tuesday there was no need to “put any pressure” on Sharif’s party in the race.
Asif Ali Zardari, head of the main ruling party and widower of slain ex-premier Benazir Bhutto, is expected to capture lawmakers’ votes for president on Saturday. Sharif’s party is fielding a retired judge as its candidate.
Re: Relation between PPP and PML(N): Would it last?
^ time for payback, history repeats itself one crook prosecuting the other.
In past, Nawaz started many cases against all their political opponents including PPP leaderships and workers. Similarly PPP (BeNazir) started cases against all their political opponents including PMLN leaderships and workers. Both parties were corrupt to the core still started cases against opponents with intention of victimising. Some cases really had substance and some were just fabrications, but purpose was to victimise or blackmail the opponents and keep the cases lingering.
Fortunately, Musharraf government did not start cases to victimise or blackmail opponents. Thus, there were very few cases against PPP leaderships or workers as well as PMLN leaderships or workers (except Nawaz and his family … all of those cases had substance). Nevertheless, Musharraf government did pursue past selective cases of corruption that had substance. When NRO (National Reconciliation Ordinance) was issued, all cases registered before Nov 1999 (when Musharraf took over) got closed, that includes cases against Zardari as well as Nawaz (that was started by BB second government). Anyhow, cases that were registered after Musharraf took over in Nov 1999 are not covered by NRO. Now, PPP government has moved NAB against Nawaz on corruption cases that were started during Musharraf time, with references in July 2000, and thus are not included in NRO. These cases were made dormant after Nawaz and his family were sent to Saudi Arabia.
These are the three references that were made dormant by Musharraf after Nawaz was sent to Saudi Arabia.
It is very appropriate move by Zardari as at least some corruption cases of one mega past corrupt and his family would be dealt with and hopefully they (Nawaz and his family) would get punished. Unfortunately, sometime I feel that starting of these cases are just for political purpose, to harass and blackmail Nawaz. I hope that this is not the case and it is my wish that court orders confiscation of all assets that Nawaz and his family accumulated from corruption. Please pray for the sake of Pakistan that NAB do come with positive verdicts and Pakistan gets back some of the looted wealth of poor this crook (Nawaz) has robbed.
NAB move to reopen Sharifs’ graft cases -DAWN - Top Stories; September 03, 2008
NAB move to reopen Sharifs’ graft cases
By Our Reporter
RAWALPINDI, Sept 2: The National Accountability Bureau filed on Tuesday an application in the court of special judge central seeking to reopen three corruption references against former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and members of his family.
The petition filed by NAB prosecutor general Danishwar Malik in the court of Shaukat Ali Sajid in the absence of all the four judges of accountability courts sought review of an order passed by accountability court judge Khalid Mehmood last month about adjournment of the three references – Hudaibia Paper Mills, Ittefaq Foundry and Raiwind assets – for an indefinite period.
The court fixed September 4 for initial hearing.
The prosecutor general stated that the Aug 21 order of the accountability court was based on an observation that the earlier submission of the NAB for reopening the cases in August last year had not been signed by the bureau chairman.
He argued that the previous submission had been made by deputy prosecutor general as a competent authority and the point that it had not been signed by the NAB chairman was not relevant. He said the bureau wanted to reopen the proceedings against the accused.
The corruption references had been filed by NAB chairman on July 15, 2000.
In the Hudaibia Paper Mills reference, the accused are: Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, Abbas Sharif, Hussain Nawaz, Hamza Shahbaz, Haroon Pasha and Senator Ishaq Dar. They were charged with securing a huge amount as loan and later using it for other purposes, causing huge losses to the national exchequer.
In the Ittefaq Foundry reference, Nawaz Sharif, Abbas Sharif, Mukhtar Hassan, Kamal Qureshi and a couple of other persons were accused of securing big loans and abusing them.
In the assets reference, the accused included Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, their late father Mian Sharif, mother Shamim Akhtar and other family members. They were charged with accumulating money and assets beyond their declared means of income.
AP adds: PML-N leader’s lawyer Khwaja Haris said that the move appeared “to be aimed at using the accountability courts against Nawaz Sharif”.
PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal said that pursuing the cases smacked of “political bankruptcy”.
“Sometimes, if you cannot get things done politically, then you try to blackmail the opposition,” he told DawnNews TV.
Re: Relation between PPP and PML(N): Would it last?
^ Dude, wait till Zardari comes up with his own NRO and then you’ll be asking for “logical reasons” what Zardari got as “deal”
In past, Nawaz started many cases against all their political opponents including PPP leaderships and workers. Similarly PPP (BeNazir) started cases against all their political opponents including PMLN leaderships and workers. Both parties were corrupt to the core still started cases against opponents with intention of victimising. Some cases really had substance and some were just fabrications, but purpose was to victimise or blackmail the opponents and keep the cases lingering.
Fortunately, Musharraf government did not start cases to victimise or blackmail opponents. Thus, there were very few cases against PPP leaderships or workers as well as PMLN leaderships or workers (except Nawaz and his family ... all of those cases had substance). Nevertheless, Musharraf government did blahbllahblahblahV.
I see, and what about the millions of dollars spent to pursue cases against Zardari from 99 onwards? What about the hogwash cases against people like Gillani, Hashmi, and even his soon to be chamcha Mushahid Hussain? Some of these people held their ground for years, until they were set free by the independent judiciary, and some of the not so stronger ones, like Mushahid bowed and kissed Musharrafs feet. Musharraf didnt even need cases to imprison people. Imran Khan spent a great amount of time in jail without any charges. Please dont portray this horrific dictatorship as some kind of ras malayi.
Democracy is very cruel. I won't be surprised if PMLN would be out of Punjab government soon. It is possible that we might see chief minister of Punjab from PMLQ with most ministries in the hand of PPP, or chief Minister of PPP with number of ministries in the hand of PMLQ.
When 3 parties share bulk of the seats in assembly and none have overall majority, it is normal that two parties make coalition according to their own best interests. At present, coalition in Punjab is against the norm of democracy. Position in Punjab assembly before Independent winner candidates joined parties (true election result). Later many independents joined parties. Further, women and minorities candidates were elected according to strength of parties (after independents joined). Present strength of parties in Punjab Assembly.
Parties ... Elec ... Ind ... W and M ... Total
PMLN: ... 110.... 26........ 34........... 170
PPP: ....... 82..... 4.......... 21......... 107
PMLQ: .... 66..... 0.......... 18........... 84
MMA: ...... 2...... 0.......... 0............. 2
PMLF: ..... 2...... 0........... 1............. 3
Ind: ...... 34................................... 4
A party needs 186 assembly members to rule Punjab. A member cannot go against their party leadership directions if vote of confidence is needed (I believe, that excludes Independents who joined party after election, as they did not contested election on party ticket). PMLN leadership has bad relationship with PMLQ leadership and thus if PPP decides to ditch them and start supporting PMLQ, than PMLN goes out of power in Punjab. In such situation, PPP would be bigger partner in coalition and would get bigger share in Punjab government, so it is to their benefit to ditch PMLN.