Saying Lilaha Illalah Mohammad-Ur-Rasoolullah.
Does that make a person ‘muslim’?
1-Yes
2-No
No inflammatory posts or attacks please. Do not call anyone kaafir for any reason.
It is only basic question, since supposedly muslims have forgotten what really it takes to receite the kalmah.
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ashhadu Allaho laa Ilaaha Illaho wa ashhadu anna moHammadan 'abdahu wa ra`sooloh [saws]...this is the complete shahadah
Indeed it makes a person Muslim but NOT a momin.
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It's not just saying it, you have to believe it too, it makes you Muslim but doesn't define how much adhere to Islam
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**ashhadu Allaho laa Ilaaha Illaho wa ashhadu anna moHammad ur Rasool ul Allah [saws]...this is the complete shahadah
Indeed it makes a person Muslim but NOT a momin.**
You've quoted it wrong. Please correct it.
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^^ Kalima Shahadah:
Ashhadu alla ilaaha illAllahu wahdahu la shareeka lahu wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan abduhu wa rasooluhu
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You've quoted it wrong. Please correct it.
jazaak Allaho Khair biraadar :)
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Make this thread into a Poll.. I think you ll get a better understanding of the level of pplz understanding of Islam 
<< Personal opinion.
No It does not ..Because Every person IS born a Muslim .. Its the Parents / Guardians who make u / shape you in to who u are…the Kalma is just a verification Statement of your upbringing.
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Believing in the oneness of Allah and The Prophethood of Muhammad (s) makes one a muslim. The Kalima is the decleration of it.
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Ashhadu Un Lailaaha… is better way as I understand. 
Yes. That is one thought/belief people have.
And action?
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^ Well there are good muslims and bad muslims.
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^ Well there are good muslims and bad muslims.
Agreed. And I know what you are saying.
Welcome to elaborate.
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Faith (Iman) signifies belief in the Oneness of God, Prophethood, Hereafter etc and the true center of faith is the heart " ...God has inscribed faith in their very hearts." 58:22 and of course there were those who merely pay lip service to Islam " The Arabs of the desert declare: 'We are true believers'. Say: Believers you are not. Rather say: "We profess Islam", for faith has not yet found its way into you hearts" 49:14
Hence we may conclude that there are degrees of faith. Furthermore, the mere belief cannot suffice. Imam Baqir (s) narrates that a man asked Ali : Is it the case that anyone who testifies to the Oneness of God and to the message of Muhammad is a believer? The Imam replied : 'Where, then, are the obligatory duties one owes to God?' The Imam also said: 'If faith were but a matter of words, then fasting, prayer, and the distinction between halal and haram, would not have been revealed'.
Belief in one's heart alone is the lowest degree of faith and when it is combined with the concomittant duties it is the road to salvation in both the worlds. Imam Jafar Sadiq said: 'Truly the most excellent and the most necessary obligation incumbent upon man is knowledge of the Lord, and the acknowledgement of one's servitude to Him'. Salat, Hajj etc are all manifestations or actions that serve as out acknowledgement of His Lordship.
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^ Nice.
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Ashhadu Un Lailaaha... is better way as I understand.
The N is silent, so it's pronounced "Ashhadu alla ilaaha"
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To add to what has already been written above.
There are three aspects of Deen. Iman, Islam and Ihsan. These are studied as 'Aqeedah, Fiqh and Tazkiyyah/Tassuwwuf/Jihad ... Note: that Shahadah is not in the 'aqeedah teachings, rather it is in the Fiqh. The simplest breakdown of Fiqh is Shahadah, Salat, Zakat, Sayam, Hajj.
Building on Shahadah leads to Dawah, Salat to other forms of Dzikr, Zakat to Sadaqah, Sayam to Nufli Sayam and Forms of dzikr/khalwa and Hajj leads to preparation to be independent of domicile or preparedness for hijra and undertaking of Ummrah, etc.
The basic ones are required the other versions are by choice and level of iman.
The 'aqeedah needs to be in tact before one can consider himself/herself a Muslim.
So the fundamental difference between 'aqeedah and fiqh is that 'aqeedah tells us how we should "understand" and "accept" in our hearts, and fiqh teaches us how we should "perform" rites and rituals.
Shahadah therefore is a ritual. Declaration is an ACT it is not a condition of the heart. To be a Muslim one must believe it in the heart. Once taking Shahadah then the belief of a person becomes a public affair. The ummah then has responsibilities over that person and that person over the ummah, because that person officially joins the ummah upon Shahadah.
Before Shahadah a person may perform wudu, salat and other Islamic practices without other obligations. Also, before Shahadah the person may stop doing Islamic practices if they so choose without state getting involved or fear of being branded murtad, etc.
For Muslims we should encourage people who are interested in Islam to practice Islamic behaviour and attitude without stressing upon them to take Shahadah.
Notice how the order is Muslim, Mo'min, Muhsin. A person is only considered a Mo'min when all of the matters of belief are reflected in their actions. A Muslim is the one who aspires to meet all actions to conform with the beliefs. A Muhsin is one who strives to rid any imperfections in actions and belief and make them conform with one another.
Shahadah represents the vocalisation of belief not the belief itself.
Note: For children the rituals will tend to precede the beliefs, whereas for new Muslims who choose to become Muslim need to be choosing Islam based on the beliefs, but then practice just like children would and then make Declaration.
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To add to what has already been written above.
There are three aspects of Deen. Iman, Islam and Ihsan. These are studied as 'Aqeedah, Fiqh and Tazkiyyah/Tassuwwuf/Jihad ... Note: that Shahadah is not in the 'aqeedah teachings, rather it is in the Fiqh. The simplest breakdown of Fiqh is Shahadah, Salat, Zakat, Sayam, Hajj.
Building on Shahadah leads to Dawah, Salat to other forms of Dzikr, Zakat to Sadaqah, Sayam to Nufli Sayam and Forms of dzikr/khalwa and Hajj leads to preparation to be independent of domicile or preparedness for hijra and undertaking of Ummrah, etc.
The basic ones are required the other versions are by choice and level of iman.
The 'aqeedah needs to be in tact before one can consider himself/herself a Muslim.
So the fundamental difference between 'aqeedah and fiqh is that 'aqeedah tells us how we should "understand" and "accept" in our hearts, and fiqh teaches us how we should "perform" rites and rituals.
Shahadah therefore is a ritual. Declaration is an ACT it is not a condition of the heart. To be a Muslim one must believe it in the heart. Once taking Shahadah then the belief of a person becomes a public affair. The ummah then has responsibilities over that person and that person over the ummah, because that person officially joins the ummah upon Shahadah.
Before Shahadah a person may perform wudu, salat and other Islamic practices without other obligations. Also, before Shahadah the person may stop doing Islamic practices if they so choose without state getting involved or fear of being branded murtad, etc.
**For Muslims we should encourage people who are interested in Islam to practice Islamic behaviour and attitude without stressing upon them to take Shahadah.
**Notice how the order is Muslim, Mo'min, Muhsin. A person is only considered a Mo'min when all of the matters of belief are reflected in their actions. A Muslim is the one who aspires to meet all actions to conform with the beliefs. A Muhsin is one who strives to rid any imperfections in actions and belief and make them conform with one another.
*Shahadah represents the vocalisation of belief not the belief itself. *
Note: For children the rituals will tend to precede the beliefs, whereas for new Muslims who choose to become Muslim need to be choosing Islam based on the beliefs, but then practice just like children would and then make Declaration.
Excellent thought provoking post. :)
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if that person intention is that he is accepting Islam than he becomes muslim
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yes, it definitely makes a person who recites Kalmah..
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no-just saying the kalma does not make a person muslim. you need to have the intention to become a muslim. iman hona chahiye.
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^ what i wanted to say! :k: