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Here is a question to the “Rebuilding gurus”. Why is Australia the World Champion not “rebuilding” their team for the next WC?
Ricky Ponting 29
Adam Gilchrist 32
Micheal Bevan 33
Mathew Hayden 32
Justin Lnager 33
Darren Leahman 33
Martin Love 29
Jimmy Mayer 29
Damian Martin 32
Andy Symonds 28
Andy Bichel 33
Glen MacGrath 33
Shane Warne 34
Jason Gillespie 28
Ian Harvey 31
Brett Lee 27
Brad Hog 32
Just think how old they will be by the time WC2007 arrives. When will they wake up and axe this old bunch ? ACB should request a consultant fom the PCB.
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Unlike Pakistan, their process is much different. They introduce new players on a regular basis. They don't put 4 or 5 debutants on the field at the same time, though most of these players will still be there in 2007, but the likes of Lehman, Warne will be replaced.
Unlike Pakistan, their process is much different. They introduce new players on a regular basis. They don't put 4 or 5 debutants on the field at the same time, though most of these players will still be there in 2007, but the likes of Lehman, Warne will be replaced.
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Good point Umair!!!
Austarilan domestic cricket is producing world classs bowlers and batsman, why Pakistan can't produce world class batsman and bowlers.
Why there are so many problems with Pakistani cricket? PCB? domestic cricket? player selections? local venus and pitchs?
Thank you Umair that was one of the point I was trying to make and the second and most important point is that age is not issue, performance is. Like you rightly said some of them might not be in the next World Cup but right now they are in the team because they are performing and when someone equally capable or more capable comes along then they will replaced. Thus the new player introduced ,young or old, is introduced to the team when he is capable of delivering. So the new player earns his place rather than being handed over a chance as the PCB is doing.
I am just amazed the fact that the amount of players Australia has, who have not even played a single game for the Australians.
You got Mike Hussey, Brad Hodge, Phil Jacques, Ashely Noffke, these people are currently dominating county cricket in England but they failed to make debuts for Australia.
Let me say I agree completely with the re-building process. The only players discarded are Waqar, Wasim and Saeed, all of whom were planning on retiring anyway. There is no comparison with Australia whose older players are still hungry AND producing the results in the big tourneys. In a couple of years though, they too will be on the slide.
Only Waqar was really hungry to carry on playing international cricket, and good bowler though he still is, he would only stand in the way of fine prospects like Gul and Shabbir and he wouldn’t offer better firepower either. His best days are well behind him.
My message to Miandad, Sohail, Rameez and the rest of the selectors is
CARRY ON RE-BUILDING - YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB :k:
If we can just get one or two decent batsmen to come through thanks to the bold experimenting we will have a side to contend with the best in the not too distant future.
Well to an extent the rebuilding on the bowling side is taking shape nicely. We now have a fast opening combination in Shoaib and Sami followed by Gul and Shabbir. Spinner is still a problem.
The batting is a problem. Hafeez is unreliable though gradually coming through, Butt and Adil have only played one match and to be fair Adil got a brute of a ball in the second innings, anyone could have gone on that ball. Still let's see how they fare against SA. I still think a fit Shoaib Malik will work wonders in the middle order in tests as well. To me he has been the find of this rebuilding process along with Gul and Shabbir.
Actually I could say the same for you that arguing with you is like arguing with a wall.
As far as your funny theory is concerned about Imran was better then Wasim and Waqar when they entered. Yes, he was but at that time we needed the bowlers and there was no other option. After the world cup we had a lot of options. Wasim and Waqar or only Wasim could have trained these youngsters. Polish them and then leave. Wasim was not included because of pure politics. Mr Tauqeer Zia's tussel with Imran Khan was the sole reason Akram lost his place in the side. Wasim was one of the better players in the world cup, could you give me one reason why Rashid was picked after the cup and Akram was not. I mean you are not going to tell me Rashid is a greater player are you??
As far as backing up the PCB and Amir is concerned, as we have had a long discussion about Amir Sohial lets leave that alone. Tell me one thing. Why is Tauqir Zia still the chariman of the board. After the world cup the seletion commitee was changed, the team was completely changed, the coach was changed, the captain was changed the whole world was turned upside down. How come Tauqir Zia was not axed.
Rebuilding process does not mean start a team from scratch, and hope for the best. We should have kept the senior players, atleast Saeed Anwar and Wasim Akram and polished the youngsters under their guidance. Now who is exactly is their to polish them. You seriously dont think Miandad can give better advice to Shoaib, Sami, Gul or Shabir then Wasim Akram. Miandad might be able to help batsmen out but we should have had either Waqar or Wasim to polish the bowlers.
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once again, how exactly were the two w's supposed to "polish" the young players. And why can't they do it while not playing. and we did not "start from scratch". younis, yoyo, rashid, shoaib all were there and now joined by saqi and inzi. so that's six. I said it before and i will say it again, two W"s were kicked out of the team not the country. they are more than welcome to take the young bowlers under their wings through coaching clinics.
*two W"s were kicked out of the team not the country. they are more than welcome to take the young bowlers under their wings through coaching clinics. *
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If this "rebuilding" was such a great thing, why would Rashid Latif express dissatisfaction and displeasure on making frequent changes to the team even after winning the series 3 nil (please check the papers for Sep 07 and 08).
No matter one likes it or not, but we are in a forced rebuilding process. So it will continue. However, as they say, there has to be a method to madness. Making 4/5 changes after every match is just silly. We need to identify "a few good men" and then show faith on them. Giving them chance for 1 match and then forgetting them forever is a big injustice to them as well.
Rightly said Witch Doctor this is a forced rebuilding. The very people responsible for the cause of this “rebuilding” are now being the saviors by giving us the “rebuilding” process.