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it is ok to go and racho shadi with multiple women as long as your wedding count is less than or equal to 4 (alive spouses).
But husband needs to treat each wife equally Period. :@:
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:k: Exactly what I meant to say SK.
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The men I have seen practicing polygyny have a very jahil outlook on life. And NONE of them have been successful in upholding the responsibilities which come with multiple wives.
And it's funny, it's always those men who say 'but it's my right'.
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Question is between these following two options:
Are they necessarily that "My first wife didn't fulfill all my needs"?
Can't they simply be "I like this other girl (for whatever reason - beauty, personality etc) and I want to marry her too"?
Men are wired to "spread their seed" no?
As far as I know, Islam has not made any distinction between criteria for a first marriage vs. a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th.
2 is as valid as #1. If it's his right, it's his right.
Personally, I also don't think that a man is Islamically obligated (what's ethical is another story) to ask his first wife for permission.
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Personally, I also don't think that a man is Islamically obligated (what's ethical is another story) to ask his first wife for permission.
My understanding of religion is that he is obligated to ask permission. I used to think that another marriage isn't valid unless the existing wife/wives agree and allow it?
Perhaps someone can enlighten me here.
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There can be some noble reasons for getting married to another woman.
- Help a widow.
- Help some orphan kids who need father figure.
- Help old parents who cannot find a suitable rishta for their daughter.
- Help a poor family provide , foods , clothing and shelter.
- Help stimulate the economy. Every economy in this world needs some stimulation these days.
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Good response @Mirch :k:
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My understanding of religion is that he is obligated to ask permission. I used to think that another marriage isn't valid unless the existing wife/wives agree and allow it?
Perhaps someone can enlighten me here.
Simple answer , he is not obliged to as per the permission given in Quran. Again it is a permission , a favor , not an order or obligation:
marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with them, then only one.” (Quran 4:3)
But since Islam is a code of conduct and this code of conduct dictates that a polygamist consort with his wife before taking another wife into marriage.
Why I say so here is the proof:
Allah ordered the believers to "consort with women in kindness" (4:19)
And of His signs is this: He created for you helpmeets from yourselves that ye might find rest in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Lo! herein indeed are portents for folk who reflect. (21)
So the love and mercy between a husband and a wife can only be real love and mercy if a husband consorts with his present his present wife before he marries another one.
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Mirch - im confused with your 4-19 reference as proof
as a caution I always at least quote the completely verse - so thats its not misunderstood as well as misused
4-19. O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; **on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. **If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good. - yusuf ali translation
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aur bhee dukh hain zamanay mein ghamay janaaN kay siwa
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***If a husband takes a second wife, he has to treat his wives equally as far as possible. If he does not treat them equally then he is exposing himself to a stern warning, for it was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever has two wives and inclines more towards one of them than the other, will come on the Day of Resurrection with half of his body leaning.” (narrated by al-Nisaa’i, ‘Ushrat al-Nisaa’, 3881; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Nasaa’i, no. 3682).
When Allaah permitted us to marry more than one woman, He said (interpretation of the meaning):
“but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice”[al-Nisaa’ 4:3]
So Allaah commands that a man should restrict himself to one wife, if he knows that he cannot be just. And Allaah is the source of strength.
See Fataawa Manaar al-Islam, 2/570.
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
***After reading up, I am inclined to agree with you Princessjojo, a man does not require the "permission" of his wife to marry again.
He is enjoined to tell her though.
As far as I know, Islam has not made any distinction between criteria for a first marriage vs. a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th.
2 is as valid as #1. If it's his right, it's his right.
Personally, I also don't think that a man is Islamically obligated (what's ethical is another story) to ask his first wife for permission.