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** I wouldn't mind answering questions about Satanism and Luceferianism either. I think these two belief systems are very misunderstood and it is only with knowledge and greater understanding and tolerance stemming from these two that we can be better, less judgemental, more open-minded people. **
I read your thread and I didn't find any thing wrong with it. If you call Satanism 'religion' then we should get a chance to discuss it.
Is this forum about different Religions or just Islam??
There should be an explanation for deletion of that thread. I'm with you on this one.
Sarah.. just as yourself, I also find shoving ones belief system down everyone’s throat extremely annoying. Just as one can not degrade others’ belief system by simply talking negative about it and abrogating it, one can similarly not glorify one’s own. It is for people to judge for themselves. Anyone with a face like horse’s butt can stand up and celebrate and flatter his or her religion, but it is the tail that people pay attention to. Don’t get too deep here. Will ya?
Boss,
this is waht I said in Safrah's 2nd Thread which was also deleted.We should be open to discussions and just dont Delete threads.
** LET US AGREE TO DISAGREE **
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even if we disagree to agree, we should NOT limit free though and free speech as long as it doesn't trample on another's belief system.
Last I checked, this was the RELIGION forum, not Orthodox-'Mainstream'-Islam-as-practised-by-people-from-the-sub-continent forum.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
even if we disagree to agree, we should **NOT limit free though and free speech as long as it doesn't trample on another's belief system.
Last I checked, this was the RELIGION forum, not Orthodox-'Mainstream'-Islam-as-practised-by-people-from-the-sub-continent forum.
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I dont see anywhere in her post she *trampled on anyone's belief system. *
Also If Its not appropriate for ** RELIGION** forum then it can be moved to ** GENERAL ** forum. But deleting the posty means you are against the FREEDOM of SPEECH. You can force all teh people to talk about what you liek to listen.
I am neither FoR or AGAINST SARAH on this topic.but I am FOR THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH and being TOLERAnt TO OTHERS VIEWS.
Jiyo Aur Jeene Do!!!
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Does anyone know of any belief system that does not end up having "true believers" who have to convert every body in sight?
This particular belief system stands in
direct contradiction to most others. It
would be more closely related to Atheism.
It also offends those who are Jews, Muslims,
and Christians at a minimum. I notice that it
would seem that the originator of this thread
still claimed to be somewhat aligned with
Islam, quickly changed her alignment. If it
was caused by the impression Islam was not
fair to women, that is sad. Islam, Judaism,
and Christianity detail fair treatment rare-
ly practiced by their adherents. Individual-
ity, within a framework, is encouraged. The
deception she feels is freedom, in the long
run, is the most enslaving. It is a trick of
cosmic dimension. See the light that is God!
God is the creator and sustainer of all.
Words are great to elicit emotions ... I think literature is where one goes to get that. The 'Neural Correlate' of an emotional high is merely a few flickering synapses in a very localised part of the brain. When you distort Brain Chemistry, drugs or meditation, the result is hard to tell. So in simpler terms, Mr. Tomasso, which light are we referring to? Is it personal experience of a mystic or are we parroting someone else's dreams and/or hallucinations?
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Actually, if concepts are put across in a
polite way or the subtle pointing out of
errors in private by fellow faithful is
done in well intentioned ways, I would
deem that constructive and a gift from
someone who truely cares. On the subject
of a certain part of the brain, I would
submit that science may be able to explain
this and that, but can it say that is all
there is to it in a definite sense? Science
does not always take such liberties. My use
of the term light did not have to do with
either part of your question. It was used to
elicit a response that did not materialise.
Sarah, would you speculate as to whether you
have an affinity towards the belief systems
you identify because of the nature of your
personality, pride, and intellectual zest?
Some aspects of Islam pose some interesting
questions and give some pause for thought. I
still do not have a reason to hate even the
most ardent of the militants. It merely is an
opportunity to be able to see things in an
altogether diffent context. I did not even
begin to use logic to make my point to you.
I tend to think Islam is followed in the
world by a good many a person. All of your
dissent could be answered by at least two
major religions that come to mind. It is sad
that bad enviroments of any kind can impact
an individual to the extent that you may
have experienced. If you truely are searching
in a spiritual direction, in time you may
find that your frame of mind now may have a
lot to do with the natural chemical makeup
active within you at this time. Women are far
more complicated than men in metabolism and
consequently in thought as well. This is not
intended as a negative comment.
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Sarah its nice to see people think out of the box..
Its always good to ask WHY?
Y do we even have religion?
What i think is that people want to believe in afterlife am i right? Well maybe not everyone but most do.
Why do we even have a heaven and hell?
Cant we all die and just go to heaven... but then we would live as we want (right or wrong.. do good or do bad) (same goes for - if there was no heaven and no hell)
So we want to go to heaven and how do we get there?
We do good deeds
Who decides what these good deeds are or what is good and what is bad?
If a human is raised in a dark cave all his/her life and has never seen or even know what light is..
If this person is taken outside the cave
what is his/her reaction? Fear surprise shock and he/she will probably run back into the dark.
Is the light bad or is it good ??
You see people will always see things their way
Reality is but one
Truth is but one
whether the person realizes or not
If i told the person that the light was the source of live here on earth would he/she believe me?
If i said it was good?
Would he/she accept the truth?
I believe that its a duty upon us to search for the truth and be open to every possible idea and to accept only the truth and reject the false
to come out of the cave and into the light
out of ignorance and into knowledge
out of disbelief and into belief
out of falsehood and into truth
What is the truth, the light, the knowlegde, the belief
Well like i said people will chose what they want
Be one of those who is willing to look for truth and then have the courage to accept it
For me My Lord is the Truth the Knowledge the Guidance and everything
I choose not just because
I choose because i see fact not fiction
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** Reason for Deleting the Satanist Thread - I’d Like an Answer Please **
Didn’t read it or any of the above, but was it because it was typically dreary and predictable…don’t know just a thought?
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