Reality of 786!

**agreed to both of your points. i assume u mean innovation not invention. however my point is that the numerical value has its uses in certain ''ilms''. if one doesnt know about it , it doesnt mean the thing doesnt exist.

ps make a list of 10 peoples actions beliefs and understanding about islam. except for some basic beliefs u will find every single person following his/her own custom made religion of selective hadith and morals. dos and donts list wud be different for evryone EVEN IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD.

and if its the correction of the ummah we r talking about then firstly there r far more basic matters of importance than the 786 issue, secondly no one will receive the validation certificate in this world. **

Re: Reality of 786!

there are many other things that we muslims follow and does not even exist in ahadeeths :) .. ..

@ IonicRain - I don't negate from the importance of numerology other such sciences but the fact is that such things are forbidden in islam :)

You are quoting a Yazidi?!

Re: Reality of 786!

on a different note .. did u ever try to investigate about yazid or other things rather than whatever is portrayed about him during first ashra of moharam? .. did u ever even tried to study islamic history rather than only listening to few mulas?

I will suggest .. please .. try to read yourself rather believe on ANY MULA! .. read history from some books which are authentic.

did i says numerical ilms dont exist; despite their existance we do not see in the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (saww) their usage.

Enter into the fold of Islam completely, and follow not the footsteps of the Shaytan." [Qur'an Al-Baqarah:208]

"Do you believe in a part of the Book and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except humiliation in this life, and on the Day of Resurrection, they will be consigned to the most grievous torment !" [Qur'an Al-Baqarah:85]

true there may be other important issues but why open another front; just for the sake of it.
validation of actions is when they mactch the teachings of quran and sunnah

**@ Ashoka

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we dont see many things we do today in sunnah, we dont do many things today that we see in sunnah. i thought actions are judged by intentions and any validation wud be on the day of judgement. Ashoka u missed my point by a mile about the customized following of religion. That is what happens despite what the Quran says, its common observation. and i agree lets not open another front.

Re: Reality of 786!

:salam2:

Better we look at ourself first rather than talking 'bout some1 else. :slight_smile:

thankss

Re: Reality of 786!

:hmmm: :slight_smile:

Rightly said.

Numeric of God would be equal as Dog. Same goes for 786. It can stand anything else other than Bismillah.

Prophet SAW never used 786 on letters and Quranic copies (on leaves, leather etc.)

Yazid did not kill Husain RA according to Sahih Bukhari.

Narrated Ibn Abi Nu’m: A person asked 'Abdullah bin 'Umar whether a Muslim could kill flies. I heard him saying (in reply). “The people of Iraq are asking about the killing of flies while they themselves murdered the son of the daughter of Allah’s Apostle . The Prophet said, They (i.e. Hasan and Husain) are my two sweet basils in this world.” (Book #57](57. Companions of the Prophet - Sahih Al-Bukhari - 0 - 96), Hadith #96](57. Companions of the Prophet - Sahih Al-Bukhari - 0 - 96))

Re: Reality of 786!

I Agree :k: