Do you think that it needs so badly in province where a lot of inter-district/local (other than Lahore) road need to be repaired. Many other routes are need to paved.
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The main route is to connect Shahdra and this will only triple the already 300+ dacoities per night in Lahore as dacoits will now have an easy and "rapid" to get back to their hides near Shahdra. I mean about a dozen of PML-N MNAs and MPAs in lahore alone have been robbed, how can such a nalaiq party provide anything worthwhile?
I am pretty sure that given the incompetence of PML-N and the childish thinking of Shehbaz Sharif, this scheme will see an ugly ending. Remember a couple of years ago these same dumb brothers imported chinese CNG buses costing the ex-chequer billions and then the buses were dumped because they simply could not climb overhead bridges or even small heights. PML-N is the biggest failure and the biggest munafiqs of Pakistan.
The only thing that they can do best is act as zardari's sandals as he ascends into power again.
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The Rapid Mass project was supposed to start in 2008, but the current Punjab government scrapped it after coming to power since the project was not their brain child. Now since the elections are near, the project is being revived in the form of Rapid Bus Transport.
Punjab project: Lahore rapid transit scheme being revived – The Express Tribune
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Who cares what the motive is. If they get the project done regardless of the reason behind it, is still a win for the people of Lahore. This project for whatever its worth should create a number of jobs, reduce traffic, and give the city a look thats both modern and efficient.
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I dont think it will be complete by election time
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seems like this is a stalled project, nothing is really happening!
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seems like this is a stalled project, nothing is really happening!
The forum Skyscrapercity has updated photos of the project. Its well on its way to being completed, with overhead bridges and railings separating the bus lane from general traffic. Hate them or love them the PML has done a good thing with this project so far.
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I'm going to check out pictures .so it will be completed by the end of 2012?
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I'm going to check out pictures .so it will be completed by the end of 2012?
Not sure when it will be completed exactly, but I would guess it will take a bit longer since they also have to construct over head routes.
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^ They will have to complete the project by November/December (3-4 months) as by then the caretaker government will be in place. During the past one year at least people of Lahore are getting some development projects (courtesy 30 October).
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Do you think that it needs so badly in province where a lot of inter-district/local (other than Lahore) road need to be repaired. Many other routes are need to paved.
Yes. Public transport is needed badly in all major cities. The traffic and pollution is unbearable and so is the attitude of most of the drivers on the roads.
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Its going no where Trust me
Its commencement date is October 29 which aint gona be fulfilled for sure
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Not sure when it will be completed exactly, but I would guess it will take a bit longer since they also have to construct over head routes.
^ They will have to complete the project by November/December (3-4 months) as by then the caretaker government will be in place. During the past one year at least people of Lahore are getting some development projects (courtesy 30 October).
even if they dont finish by the set deadline, that's still fine.
besides, making people's daily lives easier, the amount of jobs, this project will provide is going to be an achievement in itself.
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even if they dont finish by the set deadline, that's still fine. besides, making people's daily lives easier, the amount of jobs, this project will provide is going to be an achievement in itself.
Yep, i agree. Not only this, but even as its being constructed its providing jobs. If its done successfully, it will be an example to the rest of the country (I'm looking at you Karachi), possibly make it easier to find funding for other similar projects, and give the country a shot in the arm for having completed something after ages of faiure.
Whether or not it will be a success after it opens I can't say, but I'm fairly certain it will start, unless there is some major catastrophe. And even if it is run properly, it will still run, since they can't remove this infrastructure once its in place. At least not easily.
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Personal conveyance is a status symbol in our country and that could cause failure of this project. you can compare the number of personal vehicles and public vehicles on the road. it seems we can’t benefit even if we pick the public vehicles(already in a small number as compared to personal) out of the road and put on the rapid track. Solution would either we promote a culture for public transport or facilitate personal vehicles on the road. I personally if have a bike would prefer to start my journey from my house to my office and rather to reach bus rapid stand by walk and wait for rapid bus.
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Personal conveyance is a status symbol in our country and that could cause failure of this project. you can compare the number of personal vehicles and public vehicles on the road. it seems we can’t benefit even if we pick the public vehicles(already in a small number as compared to personal) out of the road and put on the rapid track. Solution would either we promote a culture for public transport or facilitate personal vehicles on the road. I personally if have a bike would prefer to start my journey from my house to my office and rather to reach bus rapid stand by walk and wait for rapid bus.
IF you build , they will come. If Indian experience is any worth for pakistan then one would realize that people prefer in going from point A to B faster then sitting like a duck in a luxury car in traffic.
Mumbai has a local train system which is not world class but even rich people use it a lot as road trasportation in own car takes a lot of time. Delhi is a perfect example of how rich corporate types and vadera types sit next to a poor man in the metro. Given that delhi metro is indeed world class it has changed the way delhi travels and brought social equality.
Also Indian experience tell you that BRTS is not the solution of subcontinent's traffic vows. Delhi has a BRTS system as well but people still like to travel in the metro. So they use BRTS as feeder to the metro. metro cannot go everywhere but BRTS can with relative ease. BRTS brings commuters from remote places to the metro.
mumbai has followed the same example, the monorail , brts and local trains will help METRO to reach out at longer distances.
Though kolkata metro started 20 years before delhi, it was never a success story due to delays and bad planning. delhi became a success story and is being replicated in other metros and tier 2 cities.
Point is, you cannot shy away from building public mobility infra. if people dont come today but be assured that they will come tomorrow. and if it succeeds then it can be replicated elsewhere and it is easier to get funding with a success story.
But all of that takes long term planning which cannot be dependent on the local politics which changes overnight. may be federal govt should help.
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^^^ agree fully with you, I have daily traveller in DMRC from GTB nagar to Patel Chowk:D, it is wonderful experience and all sort of people travel in same compartment, finally India has equality at some place:D
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Personal conveyance is a status symbol in our country and that could cause failure of this project. you can compare the number of personal vehicles and public vehicles on the road. it seems we can’t benefit even if we pick the public vehicles(already in a small number as compared to personal) out of the road and put on the rapid track. Solution would either we promote a culture for public transport or facilitate personal vehicles on the road. I personally if have a bike would prefer to start my journey from my house to my office and rather to reach bus rapid stand by walk and wait for rapid bus.
Not everybody can afford to have a personal conveyance.
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Not everybody can afford to have a personal conveyance.
Exactly. With fuel prices these days, it would be foolish to waste money even on a taxi when cheap and comfortable alternatives are available.
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^^^ agree fully with you, I have daily traveller in DMRC from GTB nagar to Patel Chowk:D, it is wonderful experience and all sort of people travel in same compartment, finally India has equality at some place:D
i had a bad experience with Delhi Metro during my last trip...i just wanted to experience the world class service. the access and the entry to the platforms is nerve wrecking. crowd, ufffff! it was so chaotic!