I hear that teh devil is locked up during Ramzan.
Does that mean that if i continue to be a bad person during Ramzan, I have the devil in me?
I’ve not really changed since Ramzan started, still doing all the bad stuff I was doing before, still not praying regularly, still swearing and lying and arguing and losing my temper and adding minutes onto my sehri time when it suits me.
Maybe the devil has made home in my soul 
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Satan is locked up in hell, but the shayateen (among humans and jinn) r still there, trying there best not to let satan be missed....
ever heard the hadith which goes like this that when the fasting of a person does not stop him/her from doing bad deeds (as without fasting) then Allah does not need him to be merely starving (i.e. such fasting is useless)....
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very interesting...
it'd be good if people continued to pray and try their best not to do bad things once ramzaan is over..
i find it amusing that people get back into their bad habits once fasting is over.. (im in the category myself)
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I think you need to see a Molvi for exorcism.
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don't know about you but shaitaans of life 1 seems to be tied up or locked :D
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What are shayateens? I think that’s the point i was trying to make, if I’m still doing this stuff, does that make ME a shayateen? i know people that paticipate in very unislamic behaviour year round, but find no difficulty in giving it all up and becoming pakke muslims during Ramzan … if they can do it, why can’t I? Does it mean that deep down, they have more faith than i do?
Interesting point about the fasting, one that i don’t personally agree with. It all sounds a bit all or nothing to me … if the same was applied to the five pillars or to islam in general, the ‘Muslim’ ummah would be tiny, no?
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So if you’re still doing the bad habits while ure fasting, then there’s pretty much no point in fasting coz all your other bad habits will cancel out that fast? Is that what your sayin? All my fasts don’t count? 
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Ditto :k:
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Sadi this thread made me think too much and now my head hurts and I cant have any tylenol or anything , thanks to you 
Just some things I was thinking of.. not trying to argue here, just thinkin outloud..
Anyway, I know i have lots of bad habits, and some of them are given a priority in that I will try this month starting onwards to fix.. and other habits that just aren’t as much fo a priority and can wait .. but if i hav no intention of fixing certain habits (i.e., bad deeds) than does that mean my fasts are invalid or smething?? Obviously we can’t fix allll our bad deeds, simply coz there are some things that we do not consider even bad or wrong or anything… its kinda confuzzling.. 
I don’t think ther’es anything wrong in trying to fix a certain behavior and starting during Ramadan if you hav the intent to do it year-round..but what if u overlook other bad habits? Like for example, I still listen to music and watch TV during Ramadan and I have no intention of stopping, at least not right now..rather i’m concentrating on praying regularly and not skipping class and staying ahead on my schoolwork coz those are much more important to me than anything else in my life right now…
Thanks alot sadi for makin me thinK
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sara baji, sadi sobi baji, what i said about the fast and continuing with bad habits is not my opinion....
i thought u were both intelligent enuff to read what i clearly wrote that this was said by the prophet (saw) in a hadith....
besides, one's fast not being accepted does not mean that he/she is not a muslim....
abdullah bin umar (ra) once said that he'd be overjoyed if he knew for certain that even one rakaat of all the prayers he offered had been accepted by Allah....
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If you could be so kind enough as to find and post that hadith , maybe we can read it and see for ourselves..
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^ huh????
in my wildest imaginations i cud not have derived such a meaning from my post....
u need to stop thinking too much (esp if its in the wrong direction)....
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The narration which says the devils are locked up during Ramadan is authentic but some scholars say what is meant is that the strongest/evilest (leaders) amongst the devils are locked up, others intrepret it to mean that because we are engaged in worship more, concentrate on Allaah more and make more of an effort to stay away from sin the desire to sin is supressed and the devils are dettered by that, Allaah knows best.
Our own NAFS is also to blame for sin, when it is filthified through sin all year round, it becomes corrupt so we are more inclined to sin, it takes effort to purify it by actively abstaining from sin, proper belief in Allah alone and His religion, worship of Allaah alone the way He and His Prophet :saw: taught usso that our NAFS is purified so that we become inclined to righteouesness and the veils of darkness are lifted.
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No, they just say that so they can blame kids and beat them up if they misbehave.
I was watching Blind Date last night and some of the things people do make me wonder if there is such a thing as a devil.
Did some religions give the world the concept of the devil? I wonder what nangoo-pangooo people of tribal amazon and africa think of the devil?
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Yeah! Bat tu sach hy Magar bat hy ruswai ki:hinna:
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I think bad habits just get ingrained in us and then we really don;t need the devil to misguide us anymore, it all becomes second nature to us and we carry on with it even in the devil's absence. One has to make a deliberate effort to change which isn't easy, if in a situation that normally makes u yell and curse you just follow your normal instincts and react the same way u do the other 11 months of the year. Not reacting normally would require your mind to actively take a different approach. Not sure about greater iman but IMO the people who can change themselves for the better during ramadan probably have greater will power.
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All i know is that one should try his/her level best to come out of Ramadan as a better person. Try one thing at a time inshallah e.g. promise your self that you wont swear... so if by end of Ramadan, you can control over your habbit and keep on continuing to do so ... u have benefited from ramadan...
as far shayateen are concerned ... fighting one's Nafs is also jahad!
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I gave up some of my bad habbits.. such as swearing 