Raja rental off to Ajmer....all's well at home

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Re: Raja rental off to Ajmer…all’s well at home

@nikhil25

again you are totally detached from reality if you think india would solicit a “third party” certificate on whether or not its soldiers were beheaded just to “prove it” to pakistan. there is no value to pakistani acknowledgement and therefore isn’t required. that is not what the government or media was focused on with this issue.

there are many things wrong with the above comments. firstly, indian nationalism (not specific to pakistan) has increased along with the national trajectory. pakistan has moved in the opposite direction so the relative lack of aggressive nationalism is not a function of higher sanity levles or moral superiority. secondly, i don’t know why you are positioning zaid hamid as a fringe element with a monopoly on anti-indian aggression when it is pervasive (btw there may be loud voices and asses in the indian media but nothing comparable to conspiracist lunatics/zealots like zaid hamid). thirdly, the indian public is faced with pakistani aggression regularly while the reverse is simply not true. from jihadi infiltration to kargil to the parliament attack to the bombay train attacks to 26/11…an unending series of aggressions either directly or indirectly sponsored by pakistan. there is no corresponding indian aggression in pakistan apart from the theoretical funding of balochistan. indian militants are not attacking pakistani parliament and indian terrorists are not gunning down civilians in karachi hotels. the indian army isn’t invading gilgit and starting war. pakistan has given plenty of reasons for indina hyper-nationalists to call for cutting off diplomatic ties, surgical strikes, etc. what reasons do pakistanis have to call for aggression? keep this in mind before comparing sentiments across the border and drawing simplistic clusions.

again the outrage was specifically about beheading and mutilation. if the soldiers had simply been shot it would have hardly made it to page 5 of the newspapers.

Well, if there is no evidence and india refuses an independent inquiry, then why should we believe India? What makes Indians in any way credible? Everything then is an assumption, and the only one who would believe the Indian narrative are other Indians. Its not as if Indians are the paragons of transparency.

So Indians have only become nationalistic recently? And how has blind nationalism, my country right or wrong ever done anyone any good? Indian nationalism seems to have done you no good. It means that in places like Kashmir, you give your govt blanket cover to do whatever they like under the guise of national unity and defense. If Pakistanis have moved in the opposite direction, then at the very least it means we dont blindly support the actions of our govt. How can that be a bad thing? I think less nationalistic zeal may or may not be a mark of sanity, but it does produce higher sanity levels, as you have a populous with the capacity to discern between right and wrong.

Pakistanis have had to contend with a hostile India from the time of its birth. You recall you rendered our country in half in 1971. I think that would have provoked some bitterness. Your brutal occupation of Kashmir, that was bound to ruffle some feathers. If you can point to Kargil, well we can point to Siachin. If you have your Bombay train bombings, we have our Samjhota express. If India is a vicitm, its of its own policies. Certainly Pakistan should go after terrorists on its own territory, but Pakistan hasnt gone after Terrorists targeting Pakistanis themselves. Going after terrorists is one thing capturing and convicting is another. So this conclusion of your that Indians have more reason to be hostile is nonsense as far as im concerned.

The people who are offended by the mutilation, dont seem to be bothered with the many documented crimes committed by their own Army. I mean, your Army isnt exactly known for being docile and cuddly. So excuse me if I dont quite sympathize, when suddenly after all that has happened from rapes, to mass graves, that suddenly the mutilation of single soldier in a conflict you started should elicit so much outpouring of grief. I just rings a bit hallow to me. so the reaction is what it is, but is that reaction genuine and is it justified, I dont think so.

If it would make Indians feel better however, I sincerely hope that the next time a Pakistani soldier kills one of your soldiers, he ensure that the head remain securely attached to the body. Happy?