Rafeek!

Assalam Alaikum,

I have often heard (not experianced myslef) from others that in Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia, UAE etc… Pakistanis are called Rafeeqs (friend) . I suppose we Pakistanis perceive it in a negative sense. What is the reason for them (Arabs) treating us like that and what have we done to increase our respect. All people are not the same and there are many sensible and God fearing Arabs I have met. However, this problem of respect of workers in these countries still remains, if I am right.

Please do not make it an Arab bashing thread. Do reply with genuine and practical ways and ideas to explain why it happens, whose fault is it, and what can be done to protect the rights and respect of Pakistani (and maybe Indian and Bangladeshi) workers.

Racist Arabs do exist but they are the types who don't take the Deen seriously, the ones who suffer from the western disease like some Pakistanis on here, the ones who are into their Deen don't care about these things like religious Pakistanis who have better things to worry about and higher aims etc.

Good and bad people exist everywhere, even in Desis, Bengalis, Indians and Afghans hate Pakistanis to death and our people look down on them, now this I've experienced myself but not any racism from Arabs yet.

Nobody should generalise it to all Arabs, for example Arabs from the gulf, arabs from morrocco, arabs from palestine are all different even inside the Kingdom the Arabs from the north are different from those in the south, to the east etc.

I respect and love all Muslims doesn't matter if some of their fellow country men do not respect me, they are usally muaanfiqeen who don't bvelive in their religion who do these things, it's them i hate.

i dont get it…
an american calls u buddy and its cool…
and an arab aclls u rafeeq it becomes disrespect??? :konfused:
wud an arab feel insulted if pakistanis called him “dost”???

armughal,

americans call their own 'buddy' too.
Arabs don't call each other 'rafeeq'.

Islamabad...hmmm...maybe its a rich poor thing not an ethnic thing? i dono...
waise the arabs i met in usa, in college, they were all very nice, never experienced any racism from them

I myslef never experienced this. We are all Muslims first and those who are like this are ignorant.

However, in Arab countries this may be a problem. I am not sure, I have heard it is. Would some one shed some light on this.

It might be a bit cultural & missunderstood then being actually racist.

When agreeing or saying yes, Turkish ppl node their head in “No” (i.e. left-right-left-right) While we in Pakistan & in most parts of the world ppl node it up-down manner.

So if someone from Turky actually agreeing, u might feel he is Not :slight_smile:

Few years back when my cousin was in saudi for umrrah he went in this small town to stay with ppl he knew there. One day some saudis heard him reciting Quran (His qirat is masha Allah very good) they insisted they would like to pray making him immaam. Since that day till he stayed there, he performed the ‘Immamat’ in a local small mosque.

Every time they heard him reciting Quran they would come & kiss his hands. I dont think anyone who hates u for whatever reason (race/color) will allow u to do immamat & follow u…or accept something u do is better then even us.

But yes all fingers r not equal.

:bravo:

its quite simple actually, rafeeq is someone who is outside their ethnicity, it has got nothing to do with the disrespect issue.

i think the most common word used is "akhoyi" (meaning my brother)....
then comes in the list "sheikh" (a highly respectful title in arabia)....
"rafeeq" is used mainly by the ladies when addressing the salesmen in any shop....
some men too use it....
but its now being widely changed to "bhaiyaa"....
some have even started using "bhai"....
those who r considered non-muslims, especially among indians, r addressed as "raju"....

Raju meaning Kings? Armughal, that is so nice.

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*Originally posted by Sharafat_Ka_Namouna: *
its quite simple actually, rafeeq is someone who is outside their ethnicity, it has got nothing to do with the disrespect issue.
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Rafeeq is used as a diss, the tone used when the word is delivered alone support that.