Re: Racism in the Middle East
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So as I thought nothing but your rantings on Wikpedia, so what I posted stands about Israel's institutional racism against Arabs.
Your articles on Pakistan are certainly not your own, but largely cut and pastes from other websites like PakDef and others.
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Your arguments get desperate by each posting..:)
LOL. Feeling jealous are we...
If they are cut and paste from other web-sites, then please kindly prove it....
Dont make false allegations....But I guess thats all you can do...When you see how minisule your knowledge is....
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I have provided links from Israeli and non-Israeli sites to prove my points, while you cannot disprove racism towards Arabs in Israel by any site. Maybe you will post a Wikpedia link?
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Since I havent denied that Israeli Jews are racist towards Israeli Arabs.
And I have put forward Arab newspapers as proof of arab racism towards south asian laborers....
And by the way, why do you hate wikipedia so much...
Is it because that you tried posting some info there and it got taken down in 10 seconds. LOL...:)
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Caught out by contradictory statements yet again.
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LOL...
I am talking about the scale of racism that muslims in india are dealt with as compared to arabs in Israel..
I have no doubt that many israeli jews don't like arabs due to their constant death threats so of course arabs in israel experience racism
but at the scale that left wing nut is talking about....
ya, its gonna take more than that to convince me.....:)
is that the best you could come up with...
after all those posts....
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The Arabs got rich without any hardwork. One fine day the whiteman discovered oil and as it became the backbone of the world's economy the Arab's ignorance and beastiality stayed. Arabs would have been a different breed had they progressed due to education, science and technology.
One day, everything is going to end for them. If they do not mend their ways then they will suffer.
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Mercenary,
I think you are basing your views on the basis of the reports that you read about anti muslim riots etc The truth is muslims are more prosperous then Hindu’s in this country. They have started dominating many spheres and areas where were predominantly Hindu. They also are very advanced in modern and scientific education and more democratic.
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I think you are basing your views on the basis of the reports that you read about anti muslim riots etc The truth is muslims are more prosperous then Hindu's in this country. They have started dominating many spheres and areas where were predominantly Hindu. They also are very advanced in modern and scientific education and more democratic.
Only a couple of weeks Indian Gujarat police shot dead some Muslims for protesting against the forced demolition of a Muslim shrine by the Hindu government.
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I think you are basing your views on the basis of the reports that you read about anti muslim riots etc The truth is muslims are more prosperous then Hindu's in this country. They have started dominating many spheres and areas where were predominantly Hindu. They also are very advanced in modern and scientific education and more democratic.
The fact of the matter is that Muslims in india are treated horribly by the hindu population.
Many court decisions go in favor Hindus rather than Muslims...
Mosques are demolished to build temples...
People who committ crimes against muslims get no jail time...
Its not a matter that some muslims are progressing is that the entire Hindu Indian society is cultivated in such a fashion that Hinduism is India and India is Hinduism and Muslims are seen as outsiders...
This is not a condusive environment...
My example of Israel...
If Muslims in India were as involved in helping Pakistani sucide bombers blow themselves up in Indian citites....
What do you think will the reaction be of Hindus towards the muslims....
the brutal gujart massacare comes to mind.....
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Racism?
M2K, your hatred for anything Islamic and Arab blinds you to the truth...It hazes away all semblence of right and wrong from your mind...
The authorities ran after him because they thought he was an undocumented worker...Apart from that, he ran away from the authorities...
Now, let us consider those that you find the embodiment of all that is good: If an immigration officer tries to stop a Mexican to check his documents and the Mexican runs, would that be racism?
But since it was Saudi authorities running after a undocumented worker in their country, you call it racism...
This blind hatred is not unique to you and it's not your fault either...There are many gullibles on this board who have been brainfed into hating anything remotely Arab whether its cultural, religious, societal...You just have to hate it...And you must also try to present it in a way that best demonises the Arabs...
It's OK...Not everyone is gifted with hindsight...
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I have lived in south India, i.e. Karnataka all my life and never repeat never have seen any bad treatment to Muslims.
In India the legal system is slow but definitely justice will be served at the highest level. The judicial system is secular and based on secular laws and I have never heard of any case being decided in favour of Hindu because the opponent was a Muslim. Let me know if there is any case like that or show me a single law in our constitution which allows discrimination against minorities. However, I can show many laws that favour minorities, i.e. christians and muslims in particular.
Babri mosque was demolished but no temple is constructed and the matter is in court.
I accept that our police have failed many times. but, they have failed not only the muslims they have failed Hindus also.
Progress comes gradually. I have seen muslims being very hardworking and entrepreneural in nature. I know that there are instances of discrimination but discrimination occurs in many forms and in many ways. As long as human race exists there will be some bias, you will prefer people from your state, province or district or city of someone of your caste, religion, region, school etc. To blame the entire Hindu population is entirely wrong.
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Silly,
Some Hindus also died in the firing. Also I remember that you had posted about disturbances in Bangalore and firing during the funeral of Rajkumar that left 8 people dead.
If Rajkumar (by chance) was a muslim, then you might comment that the Hindu government killed people who were attending funeral!.
It is a fact that we do not have the best police system and we are still at some distance away to attain a perfect police - judicial and administration system. But, get off your paranoid thoughts that Muslims are routinely murdered or killed just for fun.
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Thousands of Muslims were very much routinely murdered and killed, and the people who encouraged this or supported it were elected back to power in Gujarat, India.
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M2K, your hatred for anything Islamic and Arab blinds you to the truth...It hazes away all semblence of right and wrong from your mind...
The authorities ran after him because they thought he was an undocumented worker...Apart from that, he ran away from the authorities...
The only proof they had he was an undocumented worker because he was dressed in Pakistani clothing....
Since Police Officers cannot stop and check Mexican workers because they do not have the authority to enforce INS powers. Police can only deport a illegal meixcan, if that meixcan committed a crime causing the police to intervene
Yes. Because they only looked at his clothing and automatically deduced that he is an illegal immigrant.
It's OK...Not everyone is gifted with hindsight...
hmmm. I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 12 years. I lived 4 years in Makkah and 8 years in Jeddah. I have experienced racism in the hands of Saudis and I have seen racist attitutes that Saudis have towards South Asians. I have seen how easy it is for Europeans to go through customs where South Asians are treated as animals.
So please stop lecturing me on this subject matter.
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Thousands of Muslims were very much routinely murdered and killed, and the people who encouraged this or supported it were elected back to power in Gujarat, India.
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This statement is way out of topic and does not warrant a rebuttal,but the sheer foolishness of the statement prevents me from not answering this post.
How can you say that muslims are being [bold]routinely [/bold] murdered in India. Can you please prove the same. You are talking about a particular riot that happened years back. In the same way can I ask " Is your army still so cowardly that they had to surrender without much of a fight in BD. Or are they only apt in killing and raping unarmed civilians "
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A friend of mine from Surat Gujarat told me horrible stories. The thing is that all the massacre of muslims was done systemetically with the approval of government. The same people who murdered thousands of innocent muslims were elected again by the voters. This shows that the people, mosty hindus support the massacre of muslims. Disgusting.
How miserable is the life of muslims in Gujarat, India.
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It is time we quit talking about Muslim brother-hood-hood (wood-pecker like sloganeering).
There is no such thing that has existed in the history or will exist even in a Mullahtic utopia.
What we always need to look at the mutual needs and the contracts that may get written based on these needs.
Middle East needs men as they lack large populations base. Pakistan can supply men to address the need. For that we ought to write contracts and set up systems.
In the past we did a terrible job in writing those contracts. We failed to protect our under-class the masses who sent home $billion.
We know Arabs are not sophisticated lot in general (exceptions are always there, especially in the royals). If we didn’t know, we should have figured that out in the first 5 years.
Arabs respect brute power, and we should have sent in our military to protect our citizens from any abuse. Even if our military was there until GW-I, we didn’t use it to push our agenda.
Now we can’t sit back and complain if a tribal dog pisses on the tree in front of our house. We should have collared that animal long time ago.
p.s. And no there is no hope from a tribal lackey like Imran Khan. He couldn’t get fair treatement for his own area of Mianwali, let alone a distant place in the middle of Arab $hite.
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There is no such thing that has existed in the history or will exist even in a Mullahtic utopia.
If Islam doesn't exists, yeah then this brother-hood doesn't exist as well, you can keep your eyes closed. I'm now sure that you don't read Quran/Hadith but that would raise a question if you really are a Muslim which I will leave for separate thread.
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Antiobl if the islamic brotherhood doesn't exist, in your case, than that shoots the pakistan ideology doesn't it? After all what do the other ethnic groups have in common other than religion?
P.S. I agree about the mullah n their utopian dreams, I am a practicing muslim, but its hard to take wahhabis seriously on this one.