and all prophets before Muhammad :saw: did believe in Muhammad’s :saw: prophethood, so still they do not come out of Islam acording to my definition…
be careful then.. 'believing in Muhammad' and 'Qur'an' before their existence can only mean one thing.. Monotheism is what makes one a Muslim.. not emulating daily routines of Prophets.
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what if muslim drinks eats pork dances nude still accepts basic faith
can he be still a muslim?
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some people would call them hypocrits
Those Muslim nations before Muhammad:saw: who were given shariah were supposed to follow the ways of their prophets:as:… Same is true for us as Quran also emphasizes that We are given the best example to follow in the lifestyle of Muhammad:saw:
Wama Alaina Illal Balagh!
where did Tom Sawyer disappear after posing the question?
This is totally :topic:
agar ban kar diyaa hay bay chaaray ko tau aik alag thread maiN muttala farmaaiye
I am with PakistaniAbroad on this one. Islam is not simply Quran+Hadith. Islam is believing Allah swt, His prophets, Angels, Judgement day. Hazrat Ibrahim was also a Muslim, other prophets were also Muslim. Islam was not revealed only to Prophet Mohammed PBUH. Followers of other prophets are regarded as Jews, Christians probably because of their deviation/departure from Islam.
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where did Tom Sawyer disappear after posing the question?
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Its actually good that he is not posting, its so darn hard to read/understand what he/she wants to say.
The ‘lifestyle’ is your insertion.. Qur’an only instructs us to follow the Prophet’s example and there are enough clues as to what that is..
Please read up this thread.
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what if muslim drinks eats pork dances nude still accepts basic faith
can he be still a muslim?
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Yep, definately.. A sinner but muslim.. At least I consider myself a muslim.
OK I am waiting for a FARTwa from maulanas... :)
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Monotheism is what makes one a Muslim.. not emulating daily routines of Prophets.
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no it does not....
u got some very wrong info....
i believe in one god, but i will rob, i will lie, i will fornicate, i will do all sins i wish....
i am by no means a muslim....
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no it does not....
u got some very wrong info....
i believe in one god, but i will rob, i will lie, i will fornicate, i will do all sins i wish....
i am by no means a muslim....
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I got my 'very wrong info' from the Qur'an.. where are you getting your info?
[4:48] Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin.
How could there have been any Islam before Mohamed's time? Wasn't he the inventor of Islam?
Secondly, this whole discussion is somewhat pointless. Isn't it as simple as if you practice Islam, you're Muslim. If you don't you are not.
how posibel before peapul knowing after coming peapul like Muhmad?
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How could there have been any Islam before Mohamed's time? Wasn't he the inventor of Islam?
Secondly, this whole discussion is somewhat pointless. Isn't it as simple as if you practice Islam, you're Muslim. If you don't you are not.
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ur pretty much right there... but i think u can categorise most 'muslims' into two categories...
- practising and non practising..
but they still muslims