"Quranists" What do you know about the Prophet (saw) 's biography from Quran alone

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interesting to note ibn warraq the anti-islam polemical writer has relied heavily on his works.Furthermore Caetani is distinctly anti-Muhammad and above all anti-Alid and early companions.Caetani has great respect for ummayyads as empire builders and accuses trationalists of having a strong anti-ummayyad bias ( which is true as traditionalists were followers of Sunnah of Prophet )

crone’s views but later in her life more temepred than when she authored hagarism
http://www.opendemocracy.net/faith-europe_islam/mohammed_3866.jsp](http://www.opendemocracy.net/faith-europe_islam/mohammed_3866.jsp)

so you see my friends none of these arguments are new just have been repackaged in a different way

Of course this is not new, its been around for 14 centuries!!! Where do you think the Quran has been?

What do orientals have to do with the Quran? And in fact after 9-11 Bukhari has been the Islam bashers favorite while the orientals of the 20th century never believed the hadiths were even reliable. The reason being that the Islam bashers see in these hadiths ample reason to bash Islam and its prophet. Thats all they care about hadiths for, other than that they don’t care about it and probably don’t believe. For slam bashers hadiths are like the hidden treasures they were not aware of before the internet came to be.

Orientals were looking at it from an academic angle. They were concerned about its reliability as a historic source. They rejected its authenticity even though it would have been much easier to them to accept it if they wantd to bash Islam. Even Crone attacked the Islam bashers and denied their accusations against the prophet. She now accepts the Quran as authentic but still considers hadiths sectarian.

But anyways, what does this all have to do with the Quran.

Maybe some of you are stuck with Ahlul Bayt and Ali and Hussein and none of these characters are Quranic and so that maybe the reason why the Quran is insufficient for you. But thats not the Quran’s fault. Why should the Quran talk about these things? What does this subject has to do with people’s salvation? Thats the reason why orientals can not accept hadiths because they see it as sectarian and they took off from a power struggle between Banu Umaya and Banu Hashim, both known for their rejection of the prophet and their attempt to kill him and his followers repeatedly when he was seen as a nobody. No historian can overlook the sectarian component especially when it deals with a political and tribal power struggle. The Quran does not waste its time in these things.

6.159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did

The Quran is freedom, the Quran is peace!