Quranist rise and end of Sunni/Shia sect

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@Iconoclast

Yu seem to sway in several different directions at one time. Please stick to one point at a time and write anew paragraph if you want to make a new point.

Firstly, Malik wrote the Hadith which he could trace back to Prophet Mohammad pbuh, those which he could not trace back to Prophet pbuh but was prevailing practice in Madina, he described as act of elders of Madina. However, the point which Muwatta proves exclusively is that saying of Prophet pbuh and his acts were cosidered a source of religious doctrine by Muslims at that time.

Second, Mutazila’s father wasil bin ata was a comtempoary of Imam Malik, so Mutazila themselves appeared in same period as Malikis.

Thirdly, you conviniently refer to historical records where it suits you, but completey ignore them when it does. Such as ritual prayer. The 5 prayers and the way they were prayed right from Prophet has been consistently narrated by every history book and every Hadith and Fiqah scholar, yet you claim iuts not Islamic. Its like i would say, Alexander did not exist, he never came to India nor egypt. If you go into denial of historically proven practices then no one is going to take you seriously.

I seem to scatter my views but this is because many here have “truths” embeded in their mind so they do not see the whole picture of a Quranist way. They see it in bits and pieces. Anyways no book of hadith teaches us how to pray the way the sects say. In fact Bukhari has it very different. The salat did not come to people through hadiths. There is a hadith but it appeared way later and is not considered the top 6 hadith books for Sunni Islam. But thats besides the point. If you want to pray that way then go ahead. The Persians also had 5 prayers at exact timing as Sunnis do and the Jes are also very similar. But to say its an obligation and thats the only way is not Quranic.

True Malik did trace some hadiths to the prophet or the copanions but not all, Bukhari traced nearly everything to the prophet or companions.

But the hadiths of the prophet can never be radically different from the Quran or contradict it. Yet the sects have very different Islam than the Quran. Its two different Islam. You can not say you follow the Quran AND the Sunnah. Because both are very different. So who wins? The sects believe the hadith wins.

See if hadiths teach the sects how to pray:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08OcvlXi9M0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eislamicaweb%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Freligion%2Dspirituality%2F12757%2Ddoes%2Dhadiths%2Dteach%2Dus%2Dsalat%2Dprayer%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded