Quran

In my family culture, the Quran is regarded as a very precious thing. We keep it high above on cupboards or shelves and we kiss it everytime we read it or handle it.

But is this the right thing to do? The quran never came down written on paper. Hazrat Muhammed knew the Quran by heart and the sahabas used to write it so they could remember it. So why do we kiss the quran?

My thinking is that this is an innovation we have made to show respect to the quran.

Sometimes when I read quran, i let it rest on my lap or I read it whilst on the floor, sometimes I even place it on the floor. To me the Quran is Allah’s word - it’s importance is without comparison, but the paper it is written on, that is not important for me. Why should it be? After all, Allah’s word is Allah’s word, kissing the quran or placing it on the floor won’t change that. It’s better than not reading it and keeping it locked away safely..

Cooldude, it’s an interesting way of looking at things. Kissing it is merely a gesture, and it does not take away (or give upsurge to) the credence of this book – word of God. Just think of the gesture as one would kiss his or her parents or siblings out of love (the kiss itself is meaningless, it is the emotions attached to it). The idiosyncrasies of our culture (kissing as a sign of affection) took millenniums to develop and will not easily go away. Just as we would not stomp on any Holy Book (out of anger) or would prey with our shoes off, kissing Quran is just a sign of signifying the place that it holds in our lives.

But I do agree that it is meant for reading and understanding what’s in it.

Interesting line of thinking…

I guess most of us do it out of habit. We have been taught to give due respect to Quran, whatever the reason.

I know that putting it on the floor, is not expressly prohibited (many Arabs do it all the time) but in Indo-Pak culture, it is not considered nice.

Regarding choomna and kissing Quran, that is entirely cultural thing. I dunno if it is prohibited or not, but it is not something on which I would spend a lot of time thinking.

My personal opinion…

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I think it is all down to personal opinion. But then we should think of it as such. We shouldn't mix religion and culture and then pass it off as religion as then our future generations may be misguided, just like I have been on certain things.

Some people would be horrified if they learnt that someone could read the quran whilst it is on the floor or that the quran is written on normal paper. They need to understand that the meaning is what is important as is the niyat of the reader. But I guess that kissing the quran is ok as long as it is in the context of respect and not that it is required in Islam.

Same principle goes for when people pray then blow over the heads of their children.. what is that supposed to mean/do?

i dont really care wether the practice is merely cultural or not, but i kiss Quran Majid out of love and respect for the Word of Allah (SWT) and wouldnt put it on the floor for the same reason...(we drag our feet on it for God's sake)
anway, this practice isn't restricted to Pakistanis/indians....i have Arab and Iranian friends who do it too.


"I was just here. Where did I go?" (Fox Mulder)

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I would never put Quran on the floor and would not like anyone else to do either.
Yes the meaning and niyat is vey important and thats why we keep Quran on high-Shelves.
Keeping the Quran on high-shelve may not be obligatory, but still its our way of showing respect to THE GREAT WORDS OF GOD, and we must pass this tradition to coming generations.
Quran written on normal paper is fine;there i quite agree with you.

Quran is the word of ALLAH (SWT), so the respect for it definitely has a place. More importantly instead of kissing the book if we rather act on Quranic message, then it may help us more then merely kissing. Why do Muslims not pay more attention to the actual message of Quran rather then small stuff.

My thoughts exactly Musalman : Paying attention to the message is far more important than implementing questionable fatwas that may be tied more to the culture than the religion itself.

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Originally posted by Reformer:
*I would never put Quran on the floor and would not like anyone else to do either.
Yes the meaning and niyat is vey important and thats why we keep Quran on high-Shelves.
Keeping the Quran on high-shelve may not be obligatory, but still its our way of showing respect to THE GREAT WORDS OF GOD, and we must pass this tradition to coming generations.
Quran written on normal paper is fine;there i quite agree with you. *

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That is fine, but the issue is that people pass this off as part of Islam. If you do it out of respect then that is up to you and it is definately not wrong. What is wrong is if you force this view upon others or promote it as being part of Islam.

I haven't come across any hadith which describes the sahaba or anybody else kissing a written version of Quran.

What tends to happen, this happened in my family, is that the quran is thought of as some sort of treasure which is hidden away like a precious jewel and only taken out doing ramadhan or when somebody dies.. It is far better to act upon the message than to treat the quran as a treasure which should have the paper it's printed upon kissed and put on a high shelf, well out of reach...

thats all very nice Cooldude.
The Quran should be read regularly by all Muslims but that doesnt mean we treat it like any ordinary book. And just because Islam doesnt tell us to kiss it or not put it on the floor doesnt mean we cant use ur common sense. I mean, this is the very Word of Allah (SWT) we're talking about. Its the most sacred treasure any Muslim could have, treating it with the utmost respect should be a part of any Muslim's nature. No one tells us to love our parents, siblings or friends....its comes naturally to all of us.


"I was just here. Where did I go?" (Fox Mulder)

okkkkay now kissing it - thats upto you - but putting it on the floor - now thats a big no no

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It’s not any old book - yes its made of paper but so is every other book - but not every old book has the same significance as the Quran - that is why it’s the Quran and not the Secret Seven by Enid blyton…
Yes what is important is what is inside it - but still I really dont agree with it being on the floor
that is total disrespect - .

Even my RE teacher at skool had a copy of the Quran in the cupboard and put it in one of her higher shelves and showed everyone and dealt it with great respect.

Putting it on the floor - a big no no in our house…

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i agree with mem

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its not just ANY book…it is teh saying of ALLLAH!..how can you differentiate between your calculus book and the quran if both are lying on the ground??? which is more worthy of?..

as far as kissing it..i just think its a cultural pracitce which induces NO harm…its not like after i kiss teh quran i say “ya Allah, let this kiss be my niyyat for starting the quran today”..its just a gesture like one of the mods said earlier

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You guys are missing my point altogether.

I have never had the intention of putting it on the floor or being disrespectful to it. But if I am reading it and for some reason I put it on the floor whilst i'm reading it etc, where is the harm in that? Your views are personal views which is fine, thats the way you think.

The Quran is Allahs word-these are the most important words for mankind. Please tell me how not kissing it or reading it like a normal book will disrespect it? Is there an islamic standpoint on this?

In my culture, I have seen people keep the quran very safely but not follow or read what it says. Which is the bigger disrespect?

HK: Allah tells us in Quran to be good to our parents. I can't imagine anybody not loving Allah, their parents and our beloved prophet, after all, it IS human to love.

You have to remember, the only reason the Quran is on paper for us is because we are not perfect and everybody cannot memorise it perfectly. The quran was not revealed to Hazrat Muhammed (PBUH) by Gibrail (as) as a physical book, it was revealed as ayats which were memorised by our beloved prophet. These ayats were then memorised by the Sahaba and eventually written down so as we may not forget.

What significance then does the medium that the quran is printed on have?

Lets put aside our personal/cultural views, lets think of this islamically...Is the Quran a physical book or is it the Word of Allah?

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What significance then does the medium that the quran is printed on have?

None at all, but i think its natural for people to want to use 'fine' materials...and retain a desire to illuminate and decorate their copy of the qu'ran...perhaps, as a means of expressing their appreciation and signifying its value to them....and there is nothing wrong with that...but one must remember that the qu'ran is more than just a book to be treasured......

Is the Quran a physical book or is it the Word of Allah?

Its the word of Allah swt, there is no doubt about that...and i agree with what you say, if people do not read the qu'ran...and i mean truly read...with understanding, all is lost, because what do you really come away with in the end?

LAMENT OF THE HOLY QURAN

As an ornament do they adore me,
Yet they keep me, and sometimes kiss me,
In their celebrations they recite me,
In dispute they swear by me,
On shelves do they securely keep me,
Till another celebration or dispute,
When they need me...
Yes, they read me and memorize me,
Yet only an ornament am I,
My message lies neglected,
My treasure untouched
The field lies bare,
Where blossomed once true glory,
Wrong is the treatment that I receive,
So much to give have I,
But none is there to perceive...
--anonymous

Subhanallah!

Etiquettes of Reading and Handling the Qur'an al-Kareem


It is unlawful (Haraam) for someone not in the state of wudu to carry a Qur'an, even by a trap or in a box , or touch it, whether its writing, the spaces between its lines, its margins, binding, the carrying strap attached to it, or the bag or box it is in.

The opinion expressed in Fiqh al-Sunnah that it is permissible to touch the Qur'an without ritual purity is a deviant view contrary to all four schools of jurisprudence (fiqh) that is Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i and Hanbali and is impermissible to teach (except to teach that it is deviant).

It is permissible to carry books of Sacred Law (Shari'ah), hadith, or Qur'anic tafsir, provided that most of their text is not Qur'an.

One should not use saliva on the fingers to turn the pages of the Qur'an.

When one fears that a Qur'an may burn, get soaked, that a non-Muslim may touch it, or that it may come into contact with some filth, then one must pick it up if there is no safe place for it, even if one is not in the state of wudu or is in need of the obligatory bath, though performing the dry ablution (tayummum) is wajib if possible.

It is haraam to use the Qur'an or any book of Islamic knowledge as a pillow.

Imam Muhammad ibn Ahmad Qurtubi says in "al-Jami' li ahkam al-Qur'an": It is the inviolability of the Qur'an:

not to touch the Qur'an except in the state of ritual purity in wudu, and to recite it when in a state of ritual purity;

to brush one's teeth with a toothstick (siwak), remove food particles from between them, and to freshen one's mouth before reciting, since it is the way through which the Qur'an passes;

to sit up straight if not in prayer, and not lean back;

to dress for reciting as if intending to visit a prince, for the reciter is engaged in an intimate discourse;

to face the direction of prayer (qiblah) to recite;

to rinse the mouth out with water if one coughs up mucus or phlegm;

to stop reciting when one yawns, for when reciting , one is addressing one's Lord in intimate conversation, while yawning is from the Devil;

when begining to recite, to take refuge from in Allah from the accursed Devil and say the Basmala, whether one has begun at the first surah or some other part one has reached;

once one has begun, not to interuppt one's recital from moment to moment with human words, unless absolutely necessary;

to be alone when reciting it, so that no one interrupts one, forcing one to mix the words of the Qur'an with replying, for this nullifies the effectivness of having taken refuge in Allah from the Devil at the beginning;

to recite it leisurely and without haste, distinctly pronouncing each letter;

to use one's mind and understanding in order to comprehend what is being said to one;

to pause at verses that promise Allah's favour, to long for Allah Most High and ask of His bounty; and at verses that warn of His punishment to ask Him to save one from it;

to pause at the accounts of bygone peoples and individuals to heed and benefit from their example;

to find out the meanings of the Qur'an's unusual lexical usages;

to give each letter its due so as to clearly and fully pronounce every word, for each letter counts as ten good deeds;

whenever one finishes reciting, to attest to the veracity of ones's Lord, and that His messenger (Allah bless him and grant him peace) has delivered his message, and to testify to this, saying: "Our Lord, You have spoken the truth, Your messengers have delivered their tidings, and bear witness to this. O Allah, make us of those who bear witness to the truth and who act with justice": after which one supplicates Allah with prayers.

not to select certain verses from each surah to recite, but rather the recite the whole surah;

if one puts down the Qur'an, not to leave it open;

not to place other books upon the Qur'an, which should always be higher than all other books, whether they are books of Sacred Knowledge or something else;

to place the Qur'an on one's lap when reading; or on something in front of one, not on the floor;

not to wipe it from a slate with spittle, but rather wash it off with water; and if one washes it off with water, to avoid putting the water where there are unclean substances (najasa) or where people walk. Such water has its own inviolability, and there were those of the early Muslims before us who used water that washed away Qur'an to effect cures.

not to use sheets upon which it has been written as bookcovers, which is extremely rude, but rather to erase the Qur'an from them with water;

not to let a day go by without looking at least once at the pages of the Qur'an;

to give one's eyes their share of looking at it, for the eyes lead to the soul (nafs), whereas there is a veil between the breast and the soul, and the Qur'an is in the breast.

not to trivially quote the Qur'an at the occurrence of everyday events, as by saying, for example, when someone comes,
"You have come hither according to a decree, O Moses" [Qur'an 69:24], or,
"Eat and drink heartily for what you have done aforetimes, in days gone by" [Qur'an 69:24],
when food is brought out, and so forth;

not to recite it to songs tunes like those of the corrupt, or with the tremulous tones of Christians or the plaintiveness of monkery, all of which is misguidance;

when writing the Qur'an to do so in a clear, elegant hand;

not to recite it out aloud over another's reciting of it, so as to spoil it for him or make him resent what he hears, making it as if it were some kind of competition;

not to recite it in marketplaces, places of clamour and frivolity, or where fools gather;

not to use the Qur'an as pillow, or lean upon it;

not to toss it when one wants to hand it to another;

not to miniaturize the Qur'an, mix into it what is not of it, or mingle this worldly adornment with it by embellishing or writing it with gold;

not to write it on the ground or on walls, as is done in some new mosques;

not to write an amulet with it and enter the lavatory, unless it is encased in leather, silver, or other, for then it is as if kept in the heart;

if one writes it and then drinks it (for cure or other purpose), one should say the Basmala at every breath and make a noble and worthy intention, for Allah only gives to one according to one's intention;

and if one finishes reciting the entire Qur'an, to begin it anew, that it may not resemble something that has been abandoned.

Jazakallah for the information. Where did you get this information from and is it derived from personal or from Quran/Hadith?

Masha’llah, I would like to quote the last thing you said as well. But we kiss the Qur’an as well, not just because it’s a habit, but ot show respect to it that’s why we don’t place it under other books or put it on filthy areas or so.. We keep it on top of all.

Subhanallah.