Quran and the Extraterrestrial

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What can you guys make of the verses below…? does anyone have tafseer of these ayahs? It would be interesting to see what how this is interpreted…

[Shakir 42:29] And one of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and what He has spread forth in both of them of living beings; and when He pleases He is all-powerful to gather them together.

[Yusufali 42:29] And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them: and He has power to gather them together when He wills.

[Pickthal 42:29] And of His portents is the creation of the heaven and the earth, and of whatever beasts He hath dispersed therein. And He is Able to gather them when He will.

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also there is bismillah hira ma nir rah heem meaning praise be to allah lord of the worlds

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Among the Signs of Allah is the Creation of the Heavens and the Earth (And among His Ayat) the signs which point to His great might and power,

(is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and whatever moving creatures He has dispersed in them both.) means, whatever He has created in them, i.e., in the heavens and the earth.

(and whatever moving creatures) this includes the angels, men, Jinn and all the animals with their different shapes, colors, languages, natures, kinds and types. He has distributed them throughout the various regions of the heavens and earth.

(And He) means, yet despite all that,

(is Able to assemble them whenever He wills.) means, on the Day of Resurrection, He will gather the first and the last of them, and bring all His creatures together in one place where they will all hear the voice of the caller and all of them will be seen clearly; then He will judge between them with justice and truth.

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interesting read Aliens and UFOs in the Noble Quran.

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Let me correct you bro ‘Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem’ means; In the name of Allah, the Almighty, the Most Merciful.

I think what you meant was Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameen’ and this means; Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

As to all I advise you to always READ and RE-READ any verse you quote from quran. Also do the same when you read any post which quotes any verse from quran.

cheers

My two days off G.S
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In 42:29 Allah is telling us that heavens, earth and living creatures scattered through them are the signs of His creation and Allah has the power to gather them together when He wills.

I dont agree with brother cricketplayer (is Able to assemble them whenever He wills.) means, on the Day of Resurrection… In 42:29 its very clear that Allah has the power to gather them together WHEN HE WILLS.

About ET there are verses in quran that deal with this subject, I read sometime ago and if you want, I can find them for you.

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eagle you got the wrong verse, but that is an interesting point that ive not really noticed before. thanks for pointing it out.

cricket: thanks for the article. its interesting, but does it contradict or support your views on ET?

Truthfinder: that is exactly what im looking for. If you could find those ayahs, that would be awesome. ta.

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Salam Ma Mooli,

First we must decide what we mean by ET. Life? Philosophers have struggled with this question for thousands of years, so it is unlikely that we will answer it.

Anything that is born, lives and dies has life. This notion fits to everything in our universe, species on earth, planets, stars, galaxies and so.

1:2 Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

Planet earth is a world so are all other planets and stars and galaxies can be classified as worlds in domain. But do they communicate?

33:72 We did indeed offer the Trust to the Heavens and the Earth and the Mountains; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof: but man undertook it;- He was indeed unjust and foolish.

Here we can see Allah gave the choice to a select number of His creatures. We find mountains as lifeless but there is certainly other dimensions which we dont know.

15:27 And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.

Also Jinns exists in a separate dimension from humans due to their unique structure, they were made from the "fire" as compared to us.

*7:27 O Children of Adam, do not let Satan divert you as he evicted your parents from the paradise; he removed from them their protective layer to show them their wickedness. He and his tribe see you from where you do not see them. We have made the evils as allies for those who do not believe. *

We know satan is from the Jinns and in verse 7:27 Allah is telling us 'he (satan) and his tribe see you from where you do not see them'

Most close ET to us will be mountains n earth but we dont understand their dimensions, then we know of the Jinns race, whom we can not see. How about finding little green men? :)

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yes.. the verse does indicate "LIFE" beyond what we see on Earth alone.. but it's anyone's guess what kind.. for all we know it could be on the microscopic level only..

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Excuse me which verse are you talking about, and whats anyone’s guess ??

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or a macroscopic level only... but yeah, youre right, the verse could very well be indicative of the microscopic life remains discovered in MARs (or something similar) a few years ago...

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wsalam truth

thanks for the verses. I think ET life is generally defined as any life originating/located from outside the earth's atmosphere. so im not sure if jinns can be considered as ET...? as for microsopic life...maybe, but if microscopic can exist in other universes/planets then whats to say other larger and different creatures cant..?

A while back i came across a specific ayah indicating life forms other than what we already know of. i am still looking for the ayah, i havent been able to find it again, hence hoping someone else may have seen it...

Meanwhile; heres something really interesting on ET life. the hadith perspective; when Imam Jaffer Sadiq (as) was asked if there were other life forms on other planets, Imam Jaffer replied:

"Like this world there are 70,000 other planets with each of their peoples believing they are alone in the universe."

[Behar al-Anwar, volume 14, page 79]

:-o

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Interesting. It be even more interesting if someone could point out that ayah.

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Salam Ma Mooli,

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thanks for the verses.
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Likewise bro.

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I think ET life is generally defined as any life originating/located from outside the earth's atmosphere. so im not sure if jinns can be considered as ET...?

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We believe Jinn exisits and they live in other dimensions, so why limit their existence to earth and not call them et. ET=life form orginating away frm earth.

Theres another creation of Allah which we know of, Angles we know Gaberil use to visit prophet Mohammed, Angles have certain responsibilites and they are associated with earth too, perfect interacting ET ;)

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Meanwhile; heres something really interesting on ET life. the hadith perspective; when Imam Jaffer Sadiq (as) was asked if there were other life forms on other planets, Imam Jaffer replied:

"Like this world there are 70,000 other planets with each of their peoples believing they are alone in the universe."
[Behar al-Anwar, volume 14, page 79]
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And your Lord said to the Angles: I am placing a successor on Earth.... (Quran 2:30)

In verse 30 we see Allah is talking to the Angles and tellling them; I am about to place a viceroy 'khalifa' (humans) in the EARTH. Bro there are many verses that associates this earth and universe to us. Since its us whos situated on this earth and associated us to this universe. how 70,000 other planet earths?

We might find tomorrow 70,000 earth like planets but not humans like us. Or maybe in long past civilizations frm earth, humans might have space travelled to these planets, just like nowadays human are thinking to colonize moon. what do you say?

Lets not get into discussion, Are we alone!

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I am sure that God is not dumb to have created humans as only "intelligent " inhabitants of any planet; and the rest of the universe consisting of millions of galaxies, is lying vacant our wahaan ullu bol rahey hian. Plus, I am positive that God's standards are much higher than this. He must have created some top notch stuff. I would be disappointed if the third grade / sub-standard but veryyyyy Intelligent creature like humans are the only one to showcase his Oh so marvellous creative exuberance.

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I will not be discussing what you think or sure of without any evidence, and neither this is a place for philosfy based on personal thoughts. BTW do you know how many universes Allah has created ?

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Truth: True, theres only one earth and humans are the khilafa for this planet in this universe. However theres nothing to say there aren't other life forms on planets in other universes.

If you take a look at the full ayah that you quoted this it what it says:

*Behold, Thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not." [2.30]

*The underlined comments by the angels indicate that angels obviously had observed other simliar creations and were commenting on their behaviour. Hence it indicates other 'similiar' creations had either existed before or at the time of Hazrat Adam and prolly still do in another world somewhere.

I dont think humans could travel to space in earlier civilisations. thats pretty much a recent thing IMO. :)

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Salam Mamooli.

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Truth: True, theres only one earth and humans are the khilafa for this planet in this universe. However theres nothing to say there aren't other life forms on planets in other universes.
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I absolutely agree with you.

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If you take a look at the full ayah that you quoted this it what it says:

Behold, Thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not." [2.30]

The underlined comments by the angels indicate that angels obviously had observed other simliar creations and were commenting on their behaviour. Hence it indicates other 'similiar' creations had either existed before or at the time of Hazrat Adam and prolly still do in another world somewhere.
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Angles certainly knew because they said: "humans, who will do harm therein and will shed blood”. If you read more about creation, this bit will actually confirm that another creature called Jinns inhibited earth, they were created ages before humans to inhibit earth but they destroy it due to their superior power.

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I dont think humans could travel to space in earlier civilisations. thats pretty much a recent thing IMO.
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Neither do I.
But will you also agree with me that we todays civilization is not the most advanced, and inpast were civilizations more advanced than us?

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I was reading a PDF that I downloaded from some site I don't remember and while reading I came accross this paragraph and thought its somewhat similar to what you are asking here.

We imagine when Allah the Almighty decided to create Adam: He addressed His angels and told
them to prostrate before him. He did not mean to ask their opinion or take their advice, for He is
above that. Allah the Exalted told them that He was going to create a vicegerent on the earth who
would have children and grandchildren who would corrupt the earth and shed each other's blood.
That is why the angels said to Allah the Almighty: "Will You place therein those who will make
mischief therein and shed blood!" (Chapter 2:30 Quran).
There are old traditions about the angels before the creation of Adam. According to Ibn Qatadah,
it was said that the angels were informed about the creation of Adam and his progency by the jinn
who lived before Adam. Abdullah Ibn Umar said that the jinn had existed for about 2000 years
before Adam and then shed blood. Therefore Allah sent on them an army of angels that drove
them out to the depths of the seas.

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56: 61. In order that We may bring in your place the likes of you and make you grow into what you know not.
in other words
56: 61. from changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (forms) that ye know not.