Quran and Islam

What rational basis do you have of believing Islam and the Quran?

I’m watching this CNN special - to heaven and back, and these folks from various religious backgrounds talk about their end of life experiences - really interesting one on this orthopedic surgeon. She claims to have spoken to Jesus. Another one being presented is a hindu woman who had a out of world experience and came back to have her cancer spontaneously heal.

I hear these stories and think if these are true, then Allah is not just being good to muslims, He is also showing his mercy to others.

How can we reconcile these testimonies with our beliefs about Allah, the Quran and Islam?

Re: Quran and Islam

Islamically, once the process of separating soul from the body, it’s irreversible. Angels don’t come and start the job and then leave. the near death experiences are probably hallucinations due to fear of dying.

at least, that’s what i believe in.

Re: Quran and Islam

The quran can be used both for guidance and misguidance. It depends how one has learned to use the quran to see whether one has learned to guide oneself and others or misguide oneself and others.

Originality of a message and its consistency is as important as its purposefulness.

Messengers of Allah had original messages from Allah and they were consistent and purposeful. So long as ummah does not read the quran with these points in mind and starts questioning what its mullahs and ignorant, illiterate, uneducated or unthinking molvies teach it, things will not take the turn for the better.

Today people need to know the quran as we have it is original or not. It is because if we have any doubt at all that the quran we have is not original then no matter what we claim to be, we will not accept anything the quran tells us with our hearts and minds which seems to go against our personal vested interests. So the question is, how many of us human beings have bothered to learn how to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the quran we have is original?

See how people attack deen of islam by telling us the quran we have is not original.

critical analysis of the quran.



It was duty of people who proclaimed the quran to humanity that they also prove to mankind its originality. Since we- who claim to be missionaries as a proper human community or an ummah- have stopped doing that it has given the stick in the hands of others to beat us up with. This is why instead of people coming to deen of islam are leaving it openly or secretly. Instead of reason and consistency we have adopted force where we can use it to try to enforce what we claim deen of islam to be which we ourselves have no idea is consistent with the quran or not.

Unless we start studying the quran the way we should, this situation therefore cannot improve in our favour and will keep on deteriorating. Instead of doing our God given duty the way we are told by God, we are busy doing things we want to do and the way we want to do them disregarding what Allah told us to do and the way to do it in the quran. No wonder we are not succeeding and are facing failures one after the other.

If we want things to work for us then we must stop doing whatever we are doing and think and do things we are told by the quran and exactly as we are told to do them by the quran. Only then we can be sure to succeed because if we will do what is told by the quran and the way it is told then success is guaranteed.

The questions therefore are,

1)Have we bothered to find out what the quran wants us to do?

2)Have we bothered to find out the way the quran wants us to do those things?

  1. Have we prioritised whatever we are supposed to do?

  2. Have we worked out any effective action plan and have put it in place?

  3. Are we properly organised and regulated for accomplishing whatever we are supposed to do?

If we have done all this then we are ready to face the world but if we have not done all this then failure is bound to be the result of whatever we do and that is what is before our very eyes. So no surprise there, is there?

Therefore if we want the world to be a blissful, dignified and secure place for our future generations then the quran is the only book that can lead us there for sure and no other scripture, belief or deed against it can bring such success in this life or in hereafter.

So we should stop wasting our time by listening to nonsense of mullahs and their touts and instead learn how to study the quran by ourselves. If we already know the quran then we should help others do the same. We should not attribute any kind of nonsense to Allah and his messenger in the name of deen of islam. We should try our best to ensure what we are claiming as deen of islam is in actual fact deen of islam and not a make belief or a useless or a damaging action.

So we should ensure we know the quran is original, the message we are getting about the quran from any source is purposefully consistent with the quran. If we will accept anything other than that then we are not only digging our own graves but also of our future generations as well as of rest of humanity.

For more see the links provided in the other thread. The main point is to learn how to properly decode the actual message of the quran by learning about origin, development and use of language and the language explains the message of the quran. So long as we will follow mullahs things will not make any sense, it is because mullahs were meant to cause confusion in the ummah thanks to kings who put them in place for that purpose.