Quota system

[Sachaydino]

Re: Quota system

@Afat

My friend there is a thing called Victor Mentality , that was prevalent at those times , few would recall how Sindh University one of the oldest was thrown out from Karachi into the wilderness of then Jamshoro , and on Mr Khooro’s objection was famously told , we do not want to learn " gadha gari wala culture "

…and its ironic , the same Jamshore University later had a medical college , and the first ever bloody clash between the two communities took place there … Ironic isn’t it…

by the way , Sindh University was thrown out to make way for Karachi University , and today its an ugly fact , that students from outside Karachi even if they are Sindhi can not take admission in KU along with many Univesities and educational insititues of Karachi … Period.

Thanks Afat for providing the historical facts. Some people think that quota system was evil created by Bhutto and before him, Liaqat Ali Khan’s quota system was only for two years. It is a shame that truth have never been recoded in the history of Pakistan. Supporter of one fascist organization calling Sindhis as parasites, retarded, incompetent surviving only on quota system. They are either ignorant of the facts, poisoned by their parents and peers or having pure racist Victor Mentality as you have pointed out.

You are right that Karachi university never existed even before partition. All educational institutions including NED Engineering College was affiliated with one of the best university of India, Bombay University. After partition, Sindh University was created in Karachi but racists and ethnic cleaners moved it to Jamshoro. I wonder how Punjab would have reacted had Punjab University moved to Muridke or Kanakacha creating Lahore University just to accommodate promised people who came to the land where honey and milk were flowing. I know none of those racists will visit this thread after reading the facts.

Today affirmative programs also exist in civilized world. Please allow me to post relevant posts from thread you have mentioned.

@Afat

Quota system is a part of affirmative action , which tries to compensate the disadvantaged group , with a form of protection , ensuring some sort or minimum representation to safe gaurd their interests.

Pakistan has seen , three versions of Quota System.

1st one was introduced in Sep 1948 , it used a Regional/Provincial model for recruitment in Govt Jobs…and accordingly

Bengal had a 42% Quota 56% Population
Punjab a 23% Quota 28% Population
All Other provinces and Princely States had a 17% Quota 13.75 % Populatiion
Potential Immigrants from India 15% population considered about 9.8% as Potential
and Karachi had a 2% seperate Quota popuation 1.5%

… this lead to the disparity we see till 71 .

This was then revised in Nov 49
and now instead of using the term Potential immigrant … merit was used.
and new quota was

Merit 20%
Bengal 40%
Punjab including Bhawalpur 23%
Karachi 2%
All other 15%

and under the 1956 constitution its scope was uptill March 71. that is for 15 years.
1962 's constitution reduced the term for 10 years , that is till 72…so actually extended the term by a couple of months.

71 and subsequent break up of Pakistan changed not only the demographies , but also the weightage in terms of population shift.

Sindh started showing a heavy Urban/Rural …divide as Ethinic divide …between Sindhis nearly all rural and Mohajirs nearly all Urban.

the new percentages according to the changed realities was then

Merit 10%
Punjab 50%
NWFP 11.5 %
Balochistan 3.5%
FATA 4%
Azad Kashmir 2%

and Sindh 19% ..sub divided using a 60/40 formula of Urban/rural division into 11.4 Rural and 7.6 Urban .

this heavy Tilt away from Mohajir preference is /was the real cause of dis content , among mohajirs …that took a ugly turn come 84 onward… Period.

Source

Waseem Ahmed : Affirmative Action Policies in Pakistan
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his heavy tilt in favour of Mohajirs till 71 , which had a total of 3% Popuation in United Pakistan …as high as 22% confirmed quota …

and then subsequent , sembalance in the Imbalance to 7.6 % their Real Percentage Post 71 , is the major cause of grievences .

My points were simple ..
1- Qutoa System existed since 48
2- pre-71 there was heavy TILT in favour of Urdu speaking community .

…and No one talks about it…

3- Post 71 , Quota system was just re-adjusted according to the population graphics , there was no bais in it.

… a few more points.
1- Pre - Partition , Karachi was an already developed city .
British govt spent 250,000 pounds sterling on the development of its port way back in 1867 .
and after the opening of Suez Canal (1869) Karachi became the biggest port exporting agricultural produce to the world from India.
by 1900 , it had become a magnet attracting a cosmopolitian population .

British , Hindus , Muslims,Sindhis , Balochs, Pathans , Punjabis ,Sikhs, yes Sikhs …there is a Gurdwara at Manora Island] , Goan, Jews, Malbaris, Parsis, Iranis, Australians,Anglo-Indians , Chinese , Burmese , Katchis, Memons, Marwaris, Kathiwaris,Bohris,Agha Khanis,
Gujratis ,now who else is left… anyway all sort.
there were Internaional Banks operating in this city.
as back as 1870’s …this was the Only city with a Metropolitian Corporation , which by the 1920 was electing its Mayor on rotational basis , between Parsis , Hindus and Muslims.

Unfortunately its educated Middle Class was Non- Muslim , mostly Hindus and Parsis … a few Muslims , which left during Partition …and created a void , that was never filled by the new Immigrants.
…instead the new immigrants created their Own self contained cocoon like existence

Today as per a Karachite Perception , area outside Karachi is infested with Jagerdars and Wadeyras who had in their clutches the rest of the population of Pakistan … Period

…A lot of historical distortions , half-truths , ignoring FACTs and some time unashamed Lying took place , creating myths , self serving myths , feeding the victim hood mentality were created .
post 86 , these distotion took an ugly turn …and Now Karachi is not a normal city , to regain its sanity and for its people to come back to reality , honest introspection is required…which given the present situation …I do not forsee..

it will take at least 15-20 years of NORMAL existence for a Karachite to get its bearing back from the created dis-orientation , he is in.