Questions about 9/11 that you still dont have answers to

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I agree. Debate was fun to follow. I was responding as I was catching up that is all.

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Ok.

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Who's Jameela ?

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Correction needed here I think.

I never suggested any lie anywhere in my post above.

Anyhow, lie or not lie. That is not an issue here. There is enough reasons to at least make the whole scenario questionable as to what has been officially told to people.

The utter denial from people like Merc of this event being a controversial or questionable is surprising.

Regarding people (including partyslim) hell bent on making only Muslims questioning the event and its detail :smack:, they just need to wake up and see a whole lot of non-muslims
showing their disbelief on the official position.

People who are questioning the scenario as told are not just Muslims. That is the take home message.

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Aapki yeh bhi nahin pata?

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Its interesting that the conspiracy theories themselves have evolved as the events after 9/11 unfolded.

Initially, there was utter shock and genuine sorrow felt for the US after the attacks. This lasted roughly a week or so.

After that, was the defenders phase, in which people started defending and justifying the attacks by Al Qaeda. Osama bin Laden was seen as a hero for attacking the infidels and that the US foreign policies such as support for Israel, US troops in Saudi Arabia is the reason behind these attacks. This lasted roughly till October 2001.

Then, when US started to bomb the Taliban and Afghanistan, then the first conspiracy theories emerged stating that the Jews were not in WTC on 9/11, and the US government was responsible for 9/11 and used it as a pretext to attack Afghanistan.

While the Conspiracy Theories coming out of the Arab and Muslim World were mostly nonsense with no coherent narrative such as some people were denying and blaming Israel for 9/11 while some were praising the 19 hijackers.

It was actually the White Supremacists and Marxist Leftist within the United States who really gave shape and coherence to the much established conspiracy theories. Conspiracy Theories such as Building 7 being used as a base to conduct 9/11 and then being destroyed, Controlled Demolition of WTC Towers, Missile hitting Pentagon, United 93 being shot down, Military Industrial Complex needing a new enemy after the Soviet Union and Cold War, Jews wanting to start a war between West and Islam, etc. These were embodied in documentaries such as Loose Change I, II, III and In Plane Sight, etc.

While all of these theories have been debunked by facts, science, math and common sense, that is the reason why so many new iterations of Loose Change and In Plane Sight keep emerging.

But then it comes to a point that no matter what evidence or proof or rationale or reason you present to these Conspiracy Theorists, they just will not believe you, much like how some people belief about Barack Obama's fake birth certificate or he is a secret Muslim.

I am not a Conspiracy Theorist, I have never have been, nor will ever be. I believe in facts and figures, science and math. Indulging in Conspiracy Theories is a very wasteful endeavor.

Its like a Son who smokes Cigarettes and his Parents tell him to stop but the Smoker does not feel well and goes to a Doctor to get checked out and the Doctor Tells him that he has Cancer. Any rationale person would act to stop smoking Cigarettes but the Son then invents a conspiracy theory that his parents told the doctor to tell him that he has Cancer so he can stop smoking.

Or when a child is doing bad in school. Rationale Parents should focus on the child's study habits but instead Parents invent a conspiracy theory that the school is on purpose failing the child, or teachers are changing the marks on the child's tests to fail him on purpose.

These conspiracy theories only serve to give personal gratification and deflect the problem onto others instead of doing some soul searching and trying to correct the problem.

The reason I started discussing 9/11 is that I was very saddened by the fact that very established Guppies were indulging in this conspiracy mumbo jumbo instead as serving as elder Posters and correct the false and ridiculous assertions and beliefs that many people have.

So I wanted to present the factually correct narrative. I hope that anyone who reads this thread gets a different perspective than the regular conspiracy driven dialogue that occurs among Pakistanis.

I don't want to get into another long debate on 9/11. I have done enough of those to last me a lifetime but I just wanted to make this point as to why I decided to join this discussion.

Good day :)

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Just a little self esteem boost TS. Nothing wrong with that aye. And you know I listen to your advice.

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Thank God it didn't come to that. Jameela would've ripped you to shreds. She hates the US like anything.

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WHO IS JAMEELA ? :mad:

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:hugz:

Not really. I recall hearing the jewish story on the same day, and it wasn't from muslims.

But don't let that get in the way of your theory. It might all acome crashing down

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That was Hezbollah's Al Manar TV which released that theory a couple of days after the attack.

But it didn't have have wide spread acceptance until the bombing of Afghanistan began.

But please continue. :D

Questions about 9/11 that you still dont have answers to

So i hear it on the same day and was discussing it in chat forums, but hezbullah is still responsible for releasing the theory a few days later... Interesting.

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Not sure we are talking about the same theory.

Hezbollah's Al Manar TV released a conspiracy theory on Thursday, Sept 13, that 4,000 Jews didn't show up to work on WTC on Sept 11.

And what is your theory?

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I don't know much about conspiracy theories but all I know is there were some Muslim Arabs or Taliban were involved either they were in for money or they just are born with sue sight bomb minds , whatever it is, they were involved. And how can you justify killing innocent people, how can people even think Taliban are heroes. They are simply Killers.

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Taliban wasn't involved in 9/11.

It was Al Qaeda who planned 9/11 to cause severe casualties in USA. They had been planning something large for a while.

Their first big attack on USA was in 1993 when they tried to destroy WTC with a massive truck bomb. That failed.

Then in 1995, their plan was to plant 11 bombs on 11 Airplanes flying from Manila and Tokyo back to USA and blow them over the Pacific which will cause thousands to die. That failed when their bomb lab caught fire in Manila.

Then they instead went for conventional attacks like the Embassy Bombings until Khaild Sheikh Muhammed came to Osama bin Laden with a plan to hijack 10 planes and fly and hit them all over USA. That plan was down-scaled to only the Eastern Seaboard which became 9/11.

Their plan was to cause thousands of deaths in USA which will cause USA to invade Afghanistan and that will serve as a rallying cry for all other jihadists to come pouring into Afghanistan to fight the Americans the way they had fought the Soviets.

Their belief was after 10 years of war, USA will tire and withdraw much like how the Soviet withdrew and later on US would break apart like the Soviet Union.

So a few days before 9/11, Al Qaeda suicide bombers killed Shah Masood, the leader of the Northern Alliance, so that USA cannot use the Northern Alliance against the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

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^ Thanks for correcting me but I hate Al-Qaeda, sue sight bombing is not Islam, it's one of signs of doomsday when killer will not know why he is killing.

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Rehman chacha ki iklauthi beti.

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:smack: Ab ye kaun se Rehman chacha hain ?