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Ok here is the situation and the question.

Suppose a muslim couple has been dating for several years. During these years they have committed zina. The families were strictly opposing this marriage… more so from the guy’s side than the girls’. The boy made a plan and said he would impregnate her in order to leave the parents with no other option than to marry them asap. The boy has gone back on his word and teh girl has had to terminate the preg.

As they know they both have committed a serious sin, the girl would like to know if there is any islamic punishment that she should be subjected to in order to cleanse her of her sins? I.e. zina calls for 100 lashes… does termination have any clearly stated punishment as well? The boy says he will gladly feed his whole mohalla in pakistan as a form of repentance… all the while bragging about how he has tons of money anyway and that it wont be a problem for him. It hardly seems like a punishment then, if it could be afforded so easily.

If anyone has knowledge about this matter, please reply with references. Thanks.

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A person is not obliged to confess to committing adultery and reveal his sin (which Allah kept concealed) to others. However, he must repent sincerely. In fact, it is stated that it is more preferable for him to fully repent and keep the sin concealed and not inform the Islamic judge about it himself (as explained by Ibn Abidin in *Radd al-Muhtar *3:140).

This is as along as the case has not been proven in the Islamic court. Once the case of adultery is reported to an Islamic court and proven, then there is no way to reverse that. Even the person who has been wronged cannot intercede on his behalf, forgive him, or have the penalty lifted from him in any way (as explained by Ibn Abidin in *Radd al-Muhtar*5:353).

It should also be remembered that such penalties can only be implemented by an Islamic state. Also, according to the Hanafi school, the penalty meted out acts only as a worldly punishment and does not alleviate the sin of the crime the person has committed. This can only be done through repentance whether there is a penalty or not (as discussed by Mulla Ali al-Qari in *Mirqat al-Mafatih, his monumental commentary on Imam Tabrizi’s hadith compendium, Mishkat al-Masabih, *7:121).

And Allah knows best.

Wassalam

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Abortion: Forbidden in All Stages? - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar

the European Council for Fatwa and Research, issued the following fatwa:

Indeed, abortion is forbidden in Islam whether it be in the earlier stages of pregnancy or otherwise. The extent of sin incurred varies according to the stage of pregnancy, so that less sin would be incurred if the abortion took place during the early stages, while it becomes increasingly haram (unlawful) as the pregnancy advances. When the pregnancy reaches 120 days old, abortion becomes totally forbidden and is deemed a form of murder that results in compensation becoming liable. This compensation is equal in value to 213 grams of gold, and it is given to the heir who did not participate in the abortion (i.e., brother/sister or grandparent(s), etc., according to the laws of inheritance).

However, the only condition under which abortion is allowed is when there is an actual threat to the life of the mother confirmed by an official medical report that if the pregnancy advances any further, the mother may die.

Given the above, since the abortion was done in the case in hand before the fetus was 120 days old, then no compensation is liable. However, it remains a sin, which one should ask forgiveness for and promise never to commit again. If the mother wishes to give in charity besides all this, then that is even better. Allah Almighty says in the Qur'an: (Verily, the good deeds omit the bad deeds… ) (Yunus 10: 114)
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Thanks STP .. this is exactly what I said elsewhere to answer a similar query, but I did not have the reference ..

Jazakallah Khair to provide the reference

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Peace Lusi

She should have had the baby and got money from the natural father until he got married to her. He has done a terrible crime. He should be fined for not marrying the girl (my feelings not Islamic law based).

He broke his word, if he had sex with her then he should be prepared to carry the title of fatherhood and husband regardless of what his parents say. She should not have laid with him before nikkah that is the whole idea to protect the woman of such men.

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:k: my feelings exactly…well said!

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TLK brother, I was just thinking over this matter and I realized that there is something missing in our views.

You see, when we miss a namaz and then repent for our sin, at that time Allah (s.w.t) forgives the sin of "Not offering namaz in time" but that doesn't mean that the missed namaz would be accepted without offering. That namaz can only be accepted after I offer it Qaza.

Same applies to all the other cases. After repetence the sin of "disobeying Allah" is forgiven but one has to do something to undone / repair or reduce the effect of that sin on the people who suffered because of that sin. By repenting the "sin of stealing" might be forgiven but the job is incomplete untill I return the thing to the person it belonged and seek forgivess from that person.

@ Topic. Of course Allah would forgive them if they sincerely repent for the sin, but they have to work hard to recover the emotional damage as much as possible which was caused by their actions on people related to them.

Specially the man can not easily get away with what he did to the girl. He has to help her regain her life, he has to support her family in every way. At the same time he needs to shed tears of repentence for such a horrible act. Also the woman has to do a lot of hard work to lesson the effect of her sin on her own life and that of her parents..

Charity, social work, prayers, and all the things that could help the two families to recover the loss as much as possible.

If sinning and then repenting was that easy then it would have been the greatest excuse for people who want to sin.

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Abu Dhar Jundub bin Junadah and Abu Abdul Rahman Mu’adh bin Jabal, radiyallahu anhuma, reported that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, said: “Fear Allah wherever you may be; follow up an evil deed with a good one which will wipe (the former) out, and behave good-naturedly towards people.”

   [RIGHT][Al-Tirmidhi          relates it, saying: It is a good *(hasan)* Tradition. In some copies          he says: It is a good and genuine (*hasan* and* sahih*) Hadith.][/RIGHT]

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