As regards to backing my religion,do read my posts in response to specific questions at a lot of other points. And the ultimate compliment for the Gita,god's word in hinduism,came from a man whom the world will never cease to admire till it exists for his awesome depth of thought,Albert Einstien.
Albert Einstein
"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
Any comments my pocket sized,story telling genius...
u still didn't mention any miracles
which means u haven't answered my question
The Ramayana and the Mahabaratha abound with miracles by the Lord Vishnu in rescuing his disciples. Please do read it,there are simply too many for me to enumerate. Lord Krishna's appearence in the Bhaghavad gita in what is revered as the "vishvaroopa darshanam"(a form that encompases that 3 worlds within himself) is again noteworthy.There are hundreds of legends documented in the Upanishads and the Puranas that talk about the Lord coming to the rescue of his devotees in times of need. The presiding deity at tirupati Lord Venkatesa is revered by 10's of thousands each day all year round and his benevolence is something even I have felt in full measure. If miracles are what you want to justify religions pick up any hindu scripture and you will find tons of them.
no thanks why would i want to read hindu scripture
saima,
For getting at the reasons that you looked for in asking me justify hinduism.Or was understanding hindusim never a part of the game in the first place for you ?? The only avowed objective could have been slander & vile depraved abuse.
sundaram islam idelogically does not accept
entity outside of "people of book".that excludes indian japanese and chinese.
also does not accept west's
secualr pop culture eventhough as christians
they are considred "people of the book"
Because it is a part of their faith.
My feeling is that we believe if we want to and dont if we dont want to.
Why bother argueing then?
Yaar eak baat batao.. tum logoun ko ho kiya gaya hai??? Haan! I mean fine you are Muslim BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU FOLLOW ISLAM. Ponder upon my words. It is your deeds which will make you the rightly guided and not just “circumcision”. Just saying “I submit” doesnt mean you are rightly guided! Pay respect to those who still wait for the light…
Aur haan! that story of the boy breaking the idols is of Prophet Abraham, the upright. I just dont get one thing, WHY DO MUSLIMS ALWAYS THIS THEY ARE RIGHT! This is a BIG Misunderstanding. Its not the Muslims who are right, its Islam which is right! Make it clear in your minds.
And if you truly believe your religion then what scares you to read the hindu scripture…??? I have read the bible, I have stood on the floor of the Church and seen how christian worship. That was an Eye opener! Technicially what Christians say isnt what they do and what they do isnt what they say “regarding the Holy Trinity”. Anyway, I am studying this at the moment.
Sundaram please do me a favour, read the article mentioned below. http://www.answering-christianity.com/hindu1.htm
You know what I believe.. that Adam, Abraham , Moses and the Prophets were aproached by God. They didnt go to God, God came to them and revealed the truth. Now does that mean someone who meditates, can clear his mind and soul lifting him to get some sort of Spiritual connection. I think this is possible. If you guys remember, Angel Gabriel approached Prophet Muhammad when he was in the Cave meditating. So I mean, a spiritual connection is not IMPOSSIBLE to be made. Now if you see Budha, he did reach some height on his own. Now the info he got from his own achievements were not enough to establish a religion. Or Maybe God didnt choose him to spread God’s word. and no one has the authority to question God. So I mean we really cannot tell that Budhism and Hinduism are just man made religion. I mean the people of Old must have got signs and prophecies and they put it in Books. Now guys if you doubt my theory then I can support this view too. Now I cannot recall the concepts name in the Jewish religion thru which they do the black magic and it has something to do with “David’s Star”. Dont think this is BS. Go thru Al-Bakra and you will come across where the angels tell about Black Magic and how it was taught by the 2 angels, I think Harood and Marood. So I mean there is a whole spiritual world out there which is beyond our comprehension.
Now Sundaram, here is the brief view of my thinking on Hinduism. Divine messages could have been passed thru the angels to humans and they tried to make a sense out of it but still it isnt a well defined religion. And trust me, I have heard this from even hindu Scholars that Hinduism is not a very well defined religion but it is more of a ritual. And I think you would agree there too. So ponder on my view. Hey! its just my view ok! yes! I did judge your religion but its a personal view I am sharing with you.
I would recommend you to do one thing. Thoroughly go thru your Holy Books, then go thru the Bible and then the Quran. And you will understand what really happened. And you will see shocking similarities in the Books! Trust me, I have gone thru the Bible and I mean its amazing! I stand with a firm faith in Islam . It really is ALL TRUE. All those things did happen! They werent bed time-stories!
To my Muslims friend, guys and girls, if by any way you are offended by my views, please let me remind you, this is JUST my view. There is no proof to prove what i said was right but it so happened that this view of mine helps me explain alot of religions out there. I would insist you all too to go thru the Quran thoroughly and then the Bible and you will see a world outside this PRE-COOKED Islamiat! Believe me!
And Sundaram, if you think you are an open minded, then go thru Brother Osama Abdullah’s work regarding Hindusim http://www.answering-christianity.com/answering_pagans.htm
Dont tell your God how big your problem is.. Tell your problem how big your God is!
Jazak allah khair
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it is better to accept all the religen are true and deal with it. if you say my religen is true others are false that concept already
put you in perpetual confrontation and unecesary burden. there is no religeious sovereignty as national sovereignty.
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Originally posted by rvikz:
*it is better to accept all the religen are true and deal with it. if you say my religen is true others are false that concept already
put you in perpetual confrontation and unecesary burden. there is no religeious sovereignty as national sovereignty. *
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If you are mentioning my views then you are wrong here. I didnt say "Hinduism is a true religion." I said it was an incomplete religion. which would leave alot of space for further discussion. Otherwise if you say "I am right" KABOOM!!! September 11 happens!! So I think Muslims should CHANGE their approach reaching out people of different religions.
Dont tell your God how big your problem is.. Tell your problem how big your God is!
Jazak allah khair
when you say one religen is imcomplete
how much 50%.
how much chinese rleigen tao is incomplete?
how much bhudisim and shinto is incomplete?
how much chritianity is icmoplete?
even if it is true what measeures you
as a judge of others will do to make them
comply?
I did not come here to teach dY/dX and integration. We are talking about religion and there is NO way you can measure the degree of a religion.
And again I would repeat, this is my PERSONAL view and I am NOT forcing it to anyone. Whether you agree or dont, I have nothing to loose nor gain. But if you think you have a theory which is sensible enough to accomodate different idea and can be supported by Quranic and biblical facts, please share with us and I would be more than glad to learn something new.
Dont tell your God how big your problem is.. Tell your problem how big your God is!
Jazak allah khair
I so totally agree with you. No one can claim to be muslim when just because they are born muslim. And its true, it takes a lot to consider yourself on the true path. What I find annoying in so many people, is that Islam starts when they enter the mosque and ends when they leave. As though they can be pious for a half hour and then they can do whatever comes into their minds. I know some people for whom prayer is just a neccesity, just puppet like movements made to appease god so they cant be accused of not haing prayed. So much Hypocracy…
As for Hinduism, they have very interesting philosophies and much of it is commendable, but certain things dont make sense to me.
LOLZ. That entering the Mosque example of yours reminded me of my friend Roger Tatum. He was kinda healthy and always try to get on to controlled diet. But everytime, I would ask him, "how long have you been on diet" and he would reply "since lunch!"
Dont tell your God how big your problem is.. Tell your problem how big your God is!
Jazak allah khair
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