i was talking to a cousin who has almost turned totally turned into a pagan. I told him how i had been praying for rain and how finally God answered my prayers. He got into the argument about how its not my prayers but meteorology. I was weighing the strength of prayers when he goes ‘put this match stick in front of you and pray it breaks, will it’. I didn’t know exactly how to answer this part. Personally i have unshakable trust in prayers. But i don’t know how to counter this partricular argument. Anyone?
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its simple. pray to ALLAH SWT to give you the strength and break it (using your hands) and tell him that the stick was in front of us but only I GET TO BREAK IT!
ps. dont waste your time on non-believers. its not your duty to put em on the right path.
its simple. pray to ALLAH SWT to give you the strength and break it (using your hands) and tell him that the stick was in front of us but only I GET TO BREAK IT!
ps. dont waste your time on non-believers. its not your duty to put em on the right path.
Oh it is zobia. Or at least we should be able to shut their mouth.
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jalpari90 & Zobia. Let me try to help u
First tell him that my prayers was the reason for rain and the rain cause by God. Same if u wanna c this match stick broken then i’ll break it for u b’coz u r the reason for braking and its cause by me.
Hope u understand my point. if u wanna ask anything else ur most welcome
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Prayer goes along with ACTION.
If you're going to only pray that God find you a job without you making any effort to look for one, then how will you find one???
What would be the purpose of Allah giving us hands and feet, ability, and aqal/intellect, if we're not going to use them?
Allah creates opportunities, but you have to use effort. He's given you the means and the tools to make things happen for yourself.......and when you make the effort......He opens doors for you, provides you with opportunities, etc.
{And that man can have nothing but what he strives for.} (An-Najm 53:39)
There's a hadith where the Prophet SAWS advised his followers to tie your camel first and then put your trust in Allah. In other words, do the practical and common sense thing of tying up your camel and then put your trust in Allah that He keep the animal safe and prevent it from running off. Be wise first, and then put trust in Allah. Otherwise, what is the point of Allah giving you the ability to think???
When your pagan friend poses such questions, fire back with some thought provoking questions and examples of your own.
For example, tell him...."Every cell in your body knows exactly what to do without you having to give them any instructions. You sit here talking before me and all your organs are functioning to keep you alive without you having to give even a thought about the whole process. JUST BECAUSE MANY OF THESE PROCESSES ARE BEING CONTROLLED FOR YOU DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TAKING CARE OF YOUR BODY. THE INTERNAL PROCESSES WITH THE CELLS AND ORGANS WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE PLACE ON THEIR OWN, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PUT EFFORT INTO TAKING CARE OF YOUR BODY. THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN CONTROL AND THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T. There are many things that take place automatically that we don't have to think about, but we're still required to put some effort in maintenance."
Similarly, Allah has control over all things and can make things happen.........but He's also given human beings the means and the ability to work toward their goals, whether big or small.
And there are times when you do everything in your power to make things go right and out of nowhere (with no real explanation) things go wrong. Even these situations prove the existence of Allah. As someone once said, "I recognized the existence of God in the failures of my plans."
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just tell him allah give you the strength to the act cause if allah had not willed it to be done it can never be done.
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Bohat senstive matter hai yar...
i was talking to a cousin who has almost turned totally turned into a pagan. I told him how i had been praying for rain and how finally God answered my prayers. He got into the argument about how its not my prayers but meteorology. I was weighing the strength of prayers when he goes 'put this match stick in front of you and pray it breaks, will it'. I didn't know exactly how to answer this part. Personally i have unshakable trust in prayers. But i don't know how to counter this partricular argument. Anyone?
JP,
More power to you. May Allah bless you with strength in prayers.
HoWEVER
We need to be very careful in calling someone PAGAN just because the person is looking for an answer in the physical nature of things.
Why? because both physical nature (meteorology) and spiritual nature (prayer for rain) are governed by the rules of Allah.
Thus exploring and learning about physical nature is as important
as
believing in spiritual nature.
Instead of arguing with him, you should apologize for not trying to understand his point of view. Not only that, you labeled him as a pagan. That's worse thing to do to any person let alone a Muslim.
No one should claim that they prayed and were able to move the rain schedule. And I am sure you never meant that.
Instead when we pray, we simply ask Allah for his mercy. And it is his mercy and his alone, to award us with something, or he may not.
So keep on praying without judging other people.
Best wishes.