Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
lol, Matsui ofcourse your opinion is appreciated.
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
I think it is a noble gesture, especially in the West when Islam isn't really visible. A hijabi a day is the only Islam I see, so I would appreciate it if they would come to my place and talk to us about Islam and how we can be better Muslims.
The best way to increase iman is to be in the company of good muslims talking about Islam. There is so much you can learn, especially since many people aren't willing or don't have the time to learn on their own. So if you guys have annoying jamaatis on your doorsteps, send them my way :p
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
^ Its usually the men that come knocking door to door, inviting other men to the masjid or for tableegh.
But I dont mind associating with their wives, when they invite me for their talks I quite happily go.
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They usually come on weekend between aser and maghrib and they don’t take more than 15 minutes of your time. So if you are not really doing anything why not listen to them learn something good. If they ask you to come to tableegh then you can refuse politely. I have great respect for them and I admire their effort. They continuing the work of prophet :saw: and sahaaba 
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Where abouts do you live AS?
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US
Faisal is right. In Pakistan they never came inside the homes. But circumstances are different here in US. Especially after 9/11 you can't stand and talk outside the home with bunch of guys with long beards and weird clothes.
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
TJ's pretty much revolve around Fazail-e-Amal. That's what they most frequently use. I've had some personal experience with them at college and I've also read up on their beliefs. Nicely put, stay away from them as their beliefs are corrupt. They often like to tailor verses and ahadith to suit their beliefs.
I've had friends who were with them, but ended up quitting it because of their corrupt beliefs. Just last week, my cousin told me how he stopped attending their gatherings because of their corrupt beliefs and the way they take different interpretation to suit themselves.
No doubt they're doing great job propagating, but their beliefs remain corrupt.
Anyway, I do not mean to offend anyone, nor do I wish to get in to any arguments, but that's just my perception about them from previous experience.
I haven't anyone come to my house, but I'd have to let them in as a few of my family members seem to be pro-TJs.
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^ What corrupt belief? Please support your argument with some examples or any evidence; otherwise please refrain from such generalizations.
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
AS i did give u examples, wat u n Fita are talkin about is almost unheard of here just because of the way they are. I mean wat type of a good muslim stops muslim youth groups for no reason? Ban other speakers in the masjid? Ban classes in the masjid because they dont want girls to be there? (even though it was completely seprated and we saw the teacher from a crack in the divider which was used to pass handouts to our side) Disrespect women who dont do nikab? n these are just specific examples. THere are many more!
Sadiya I guess some can be nice, like the ppl Fita and AS are talkin about..
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What corrupt beliefs? give examples, otherwise theres no point insaying anything..
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AS & Sara, firstly, this is a general forum and I merely stated my opinion just like everyone else is entitled to. No one can stop me from it, unless I can be shown how I am breaching a policy here on GS. Secondly, such discussions are suited for religion forum, but even then I do not have the time to sit and argue back and forth about what I deem to be inaccurate beliefs/practices of TJs.
If the two of you still insist, I can most certainly give you the contact(s) of individual(s) who can better enlighten you about my point of view.
Tikhi Jalebi, there's absolutely no doubt that TJs are by far the best and nicest Muslims around. Everyone commends their work of dawah. It's just their beliefs and practices that many of us do not agree with.
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wooaahhh..i am surprised at most of the replies. Well, I am not here to argue, neither I think the work of tableegh requires any endorsement. In fact, I feel greatly honored and fortunate to be able to go and visit other muslims just for the sake of strengthening faith, and be able to gather to offer salat. There cannot be any blessing greater than doing the work of spreading the 'noor' of faith. Essentially, you do it to give 'dawah' to yourself more than anyone, and rectify your own deeds.
We don't have a mosque here in North Vancouver, and the islamic community is quite sparse and spread out. Also, there are lots of people from Iran, and majority of them happen to be shia muslims. Therefore, the focus of the work of dawah here has been towards all muslims - shias and the sunnis. I really can't think of any other group of muslims who don't make any distinction between the shias and sunnis; generally speaking. So, now most of the time, shias and sunnis regularly offer their salats together. Also, it takes individual effort on behalf of everyone to put all the differences behind, and just gather for the sake of Faith in Allah and following on the 'sunnah' of the Prophet(PBUH). That's all which can be said about the work of tableegh.
This is just one example. Here on the forums, we argue endlessly if or ever there will be any cause which will unite the muslims together. The work of dawah has cemented by beliefs that it's indeed possible; by working to strengthen the fundamentals, and establishing 'yaqeen' in Allah amongst the individuals...everything else comes afterwards...
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
i've jumped out of my window to escape them
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Tableegh is not related to any JAMAAT. If people who are doing tableegh come to your house, you should listen to them and also go along because it is the right thing to do. Everyone should participate in tableegh it is our purpose on this planet.
And the people who talked about corrupt beliefs, can you please give some sources. Because there is nothing wrong with the Fazail-e-Amaal.
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I remember people getting all upset with my remarks about jamaties. Well today a tableeghi jamat person from here stabbed another tableeghi jamat person from Ohio. Few days ago they told this gora muslim that he was an FBI agent and now he doesnt even wanna pray at the masjid!
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
^^
Nessie is alive and well…
TJ, since you have quoted me from Quran in another thread, let me tell you an authentic Hadith:
“It is enough to make a man a liar should he go on repeating what he heard without verification.”
Well and good you heard this story, but take it with a little grain of salt…
As for the TJs, I love them for the sake of Allah :swt:…
If they come to me, I invite them in, offer them refreshments, listen to them and that’s that…I deeply respect their efforts and laude them for their dedication…
I have been to Jaulas with them for days…
Initially I argued the methodology, but not anymore…But still, they are my brothers and I wish them success in their endeavours…
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
I talked to somoene who witnessed it, it was on the news and the whole community knows. And I am not repeating this with the intention of putting em down neither do I get anything out of backbitting, I wrote about this because I think theres a real problem with them and we need to fix it. What they do is amazing, how they do it is not.
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
IMO, "tableeghi jamaat" are not really "tableeghi", they are more like "revivalist" (I hope I am using right word) as they only go to who are already Muslims (and "Sunni"). TJ people say that they are doing the "tableeghi" work as carried out by Prophet Mohammed PBUH, they are wrong, Prophet Mohammed PBUH used to go to non-Muslims to convey the message of Islam. Prophet Mohammed PBUH used to do "taleem" (of Quran) for existing Muslims and these TJ people don't touch Quran for "teaching" purposes, merely for reciting it.
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If they come to my house, I’ll either invite them in and listen to what they have to say or I would stand at the door with them and listen to what they say.
I have seen a few people convert due to their efforts with my own eyes. Here is a list of what they have accomplished in several places:
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In France there are over a million converts. There are thousands of people to convert to Islam every year due to their efforts.
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In South America, due to the effort of deen being revived, many people whose ancestors were Muslims are coming back to Islam.
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In some African countries, they have undone the work of Christian missionaries.
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Have several friends here in Canada who have converted due to their efforts. They include former Christians and former Sikhs.
I’ve had them coming to visit our family for the past 20 years and I have never seen anything like that. What exactly is it that they read?
When the Muslims who already go to the masjid make concern for those who don’t come, and then they make effort to also bring them to the masjid, then you have more people coming to the masjid, therefore you can have more good Muslims.
In the past 10 years that I have been going to the masjid, a lot of people who go today may not be going if it weren’t for their effort, because they’re the ones who worked to establish it.
I’ve hear quite a bit of what their efforts have accomplished, and I’ve seen a lot of their results with my own eyes.
They’re already the best support group there is for new converts. The best way to get new people to convert is to set a practical example for everyone, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.
What do you mean they pretty much revolve around Fazail-e-Amal? It’s what they use for their taleem. Like a lot of others have done, I’d also like to ask you about what part of their belief you think is corrupt.
Re: Question for men with regards to Jamaat.
Tableghees spend so much personal money and time just to come to your house for dawa, we should support them atleast by listening to what they say
Can any one post corrupt belives of tableghee jamaat- People keep on making false rumors about them - may ALLAH guide them to true path