Question about Interest

In Quran an Ahadees , there is clear indication of interest being haram.Very harsh words of hadees that

There are 72 levels of Interest and lowest level is equal to have Adultery with one’s own real Mother
Al-Bukhari

Similarly in Quran , its is considered as War against Allah and Prophet(pbuh).

Question is

Is this applies to that man/institution/bank/corporate etc who take inerest money from people

OR

Also on poor who give interest money in return.Who has taken debt for construction of house as prices are so high that there is no way that someone give you 40 50 lakh money all at a moment and without any interest

Whats Shariah ruling on that ?

Any ruling from sunnipath or islam-qa or any other site.Whats stance of Hanafi Scholars and as compared Ahle-Hadees scholars.Are Ahle-Hadees scholars a bit strict in this particular rulings ?

Plz. share
Regards

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When we talk about riba, it applies to both the giver and receiver.

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Non Ahle hadith scholars are even stricter with regards to interest issue.

Brthr Allah and His Messenger (saws) have specifically declared evry manifestation of da concept of ‘riba’ absolutely forbidden n ‘haraam’ for da believers who sincerely fear Allah & da Last Day...so i thnk we should not see further to wht sunni path,islam -qa or or sme othr sect says

If one facilitates any business which deals in wht has been specifically declared as ‘haraam’ or unlawful by Allah and His Messenger (saws)....... like ‘riba’, prostitution, pornography, intoxicants, etc., thn without an iota of a doubt, one would indeed have a share in da sin according 2 one’s level of participation.

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 2 Surah Baqarah verse 274-276:
But those who devour ‘riba’ become like the one whom Shaitaan has bewitched and maddened by his touch. They have been condemned to this condition because they say, “Trade is just like ‘riba”, whereas Allah has made trade halaal and ‘riba’ haraam. Henceforth, if one abstains from taking ‘riba’ after receiving this admonition from his Lord, no legal action shall be taken against him regarding the ‘riba’ he had devoured before: his case shall ultimately go to Allah. But if one repeats the same crime even after this, he shall go to Hell, where he shall abide for ever! Allah deprives ‘riba’ of all blessing and develops charity, and Allah does not like an ungrateful, sinful person.

Allah says further in the Holy Quran Chapter 2 Surah Baqarah verse 278
O Believers!, fear Allah and give up that ‘riba’ which is still due to you, if you are true believers. But if you do not do so, then you are warned of the declaration of war against you by Allah and His Messenger!

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 4 Surah Nisa verse 161
That they took ‘riba’, although they were forbidden. And that they devoured men’s substance wrongfully. We have prepared for those among them who reject faith a grievous punishment (of Hell Fire)!

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2829 Narrated by Ali ibn AbuTalib
Ali heard Allah's Messenger (saws) invoke the curse of Allah on those who took usury, those who paid it, those who recorded it, and those who refused to give sadaqah.

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According to my little knowledge this hadees is saying those **who paid and those recorded **are equally responsible alongwith who take usury/interest.

Any thought/idea/suggestion that whats the remedy then ???

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Nice to See Pakistan is quickly adopting Islamic Banking System

**
Pakistan’s Islamic Banks Plan to Open 230 New Outlets in 2009 **

**By Shanthy Nambiar and Farhan Sharif
Jan. 27 (Bloomberg) **

Pakistan’s Islamic banks, which saw assets grow 20 times in the past five years, plan to expand their network of outlets this year to take advantage of rising demand for Shariah-compliant loans.

Islamic lenders may add about 230 branches in 2009, driven by the world’s second-biggest Muslim population, Pervez Said, director of Islamic banking at the State Bank of Pakistan, the central bank, said in a telephone interview today. **These banks have 500 branches, after adding 210 outlets last year.
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Pakistan is promoting growth in Islamic finance to expand the reach of the banking sector which has less than 25 million deposit accounts. Shariah-compliant loans are forecast to rise to** 277 billion rupees ($3.5 billion) this year from 185 billion in 2008, according to central bank data. **

“Islamic banking has the ability to take banking to sectors outside conventional banking because of peoples’ beliefs,” said the central bank’s Said, 52, who started the Islamic banking department in 2003.

Pakistan’s Islamic banks expanded assets by** 7 percent to 251 billion rupees as of Sept. 30 last year from 235 billion rupees in 2007.** Shariah-compliant lenders account for about 5 percent of total banking assets, which the central bank aims to raise to **12 percent by 2012. **

“Islamic banks are in the phase of acquiring market presence,” said Farhan Rizvi, banking analyst at JS Global Capital Ltd. in Karachi. “That doesn’t mean their income growth won’t be hurt in the same way as conventional banks.”

Profit Drop

Bank profitability is expected to decline as much as 18 percent this year as economic expansion tapers, according to JS Global. South Asia’s second-biggest economy is forecast to grow at its slowest pace in seven years because of political wrangling and worsening security.

Loans for farming and lending to small and medium enterprises will be primary growth areas for Islamic banking, said the central bank’s Said.

Agriculture accounts for a quarter of Pakistan’s $146 billion economy and employs 45 percent of the workforce. Loan disbursement to farmers rose 10.2 percent in the six months ended Dec. 31, according to the central bank.

The central bank forecasts Islamic loans to small and medium companies will reach 20 percent of total lending by 2012 from 2.9 percent in 2007.

**Coverage Gaps **

Islamic banking “is positioned to respond to the mindsets of the people,” said Afaq Khan, the Dubai-based chief executive officer of Standard Chartered Plc’s Islamic banking unit. “Branch expansion will moderate but will continue to fill coverage gaps.” Standard Chartered has 10 Islamic bank branches in Pakistan.

Six lenders, including **Meezan Bank Ltd. and Dubai Islamic Bank, have Islamic banking licenses, compared with one in 2003, central bank data shows. Twelve conventional banks, including London-based Standard Chartered **have opened Islamic branches, up from three five years ago.

Islamic law bans the payment and receipt of interest, prohibits investment in businesses such as gambling and alcohol, and stresses profit-sharing. Pakistan is the world’s second- most populous Muslim nation after Indonesia, with about 97 percent of its 174 million people following the faith.

To contact the reporters on this story: Shanthy Nambiar in Bangkok at [email protected]; Farhan Sharif in Karachi, Pakistan at [email protected].
Last Updated: January 27, 2009

Bloomberg.com: India & Pakistan

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**Here is a wonderful Article appeared in Guardian on 29 January **

Global recession - where did all the money go? | Business | guardian.co.uk

brthr i didnt get ur point .... but still to my undrstnding if u r talking about remedy for da one who has already taken or paid riba thn i think it is only repentance.What ever deeds one might have done in one's past, if one turns to Allah in sincere taubah n seeks 4rgiveness, Allah has promised in da holy quraan tht He wil 4rgive all da sins of such repented believer.

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 39 Surah Zumur verses 53-54:
(O Prophet) say: “O My servants who have wronged their own souls….Do not despair of Allah’s Mercy! Surely, Allah forgives all sins. He indeed is the All Forgiving, All Merciful. Return to your Lord and submit to Him before the scourge overtakes you; for then you may get no help from anywhere.”

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 6 Surah Anaam verse 54:
When those come to you who believe in Our Signs, say: "Peace be on you! Your Lord had inscribed for Himself (the rule of) Mercy. Verily if any of you did evil in ignorance, and thereafter repented and amended (his conduct), Lo! He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2357 Narrated by Abdullah ibn Mas'ud
Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "He who repents of a sin is like him who has committed no sin."

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I mean to say , if I take money for house building say 30 lakh Rs. and pay in 15 years with interest with 45 lakh Rs. to bank , i am also responsible in sin alongwith that bank .Am i right ?

ys brthr... u r right

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but who will give me Rs 30 lakh for construction of my house , a basic necessity , without interest ? its un-avoidable, do you agree ?

Just go to Islamic bank yaara.

They will not charge ANY interest.

Instead they charge a fee of 15 lakhs for a loan of 15 years. You back the principle and the FEE.

You happy, Bank happy, Islamists ummah happy, and off course Allah happy.

Just a big happy family.

Well brthr....i feel tht if one trusts, obeys, n follows da guidance n commands of Allah n His Messenger(saws), one can assured of never ever being misled, but if one believes, obeys n follows any othr guidance, othr than tht of Allah n His Messenger (Saws), one can b assured of being led astray.

Do whtever is in ur power n control to avoid loans from bank on basis of int ..u can take help from shariah-compliant Islamic banks or financial institutions etc.....inshallah Allah wil definetly help u if ur intentions r true n sincere 2wrds Allah

Where There's A Will, There's A Way :)