question about concieving

[khattichic]

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You made the below statement, which is extremely difinitive and gives the impression that any use of contraceptive pills will cause problems…that is incorrect.

@queen_24

**Problem occurs only when you start taking contraceptive pills. So one shouldn’t take those or have iud insterted. Find other ways for precautions and you can have no problem conceiving in future

Good Luck!**

I don’t doubt that you know someone who has trouble concieving…I am going to be flat out skeptical though that is was entirely due to birth control pills. I started taking bcp at the age of 17 (for heavy menstrual bleeding)…i continued on and off all the way until after I got marrried…i suffered 4 miscarriages, had 2 surgeries, went through 1 year of medically induced menopause, 2 rounds of IVF, concieved and gave birth to 3 children, went ***back ***on the pill after my twins were born to supress my cycle and finally had a complete hysterectomy…and I can absolutely 100% tell you that NONE of my fertitlity problems were because I was on the pill for 6 years. I (and plenty of others who are posting in this thread) have been through years of infertility battles, and are under the care of top notch reproductive endocronologist and NEVER have I heard or seen any of my specialist allude to the fact that soley the use of bcp is problematic or can lead to conceiving issues. I’m sorry, but I’m not buying it. There have to be other issues at play. I don’t want to keep bickering with you on this, so lets just agree to disagree.

@queen_24

Khatti, thats what I am trying to say that mine one wasnt a blanket statement and I have seen some ladies suffering around due to be on contraceptive pill, out of which one is my own SIL, who is not only facing troubles in conceiving but also has gained a lot of weight and other hormonal issues. Even if someone takes my views as absolute or true, there is nothing I am asking them to TAKE but to avoid and therefore, they can have a discussion with their OB, Gynae over that. There must be some medicines which would not harm in any way… but there might be some harmful contraceptive pills too… there must be wrong insertion of IUD too which may have caused troubles in future concievings. Not everyone is provided with the same treatment & medications and thats what I was talking about. Especially, in Pakistani, there are no human rights… whatever happens to a human is not so important, people die or get killed and no one is there to look into the matters, by the way, have you come accross a news lately about a new born baby who wasn’t cared properly in the hospital and was bit by a rat and died? the poor kid was just ONE DAY OLD!! If they can’t take care of such a lil angel, **do you think the Neem Hakeem Doctors would think for a single second to prescribe a RIGHT medicine to a patient??

There must be some best contraceptive pills or there can be some harmful too… my own view is, if you are doubtful about anything, just avoid it and stay away!! and I am saying this, because I have seen when you switch doctors, the other says, Oh! the previous doctor wasnt prescribing you the right medication… and writes you something new and the chain goes on!!
so, on THIS basis, I passed the comment!! Hope you understand now!! **

The above points you made are a completely different scenario. The doctors or hospitals misdiagnosing a condition or not knowing how to treat it properly has nothing do with the statement you made about bcp causing problems in conceiving.

I agree that many average gynacologist in Pakistan or India or wherever may not know how to treat infertitlity issues, but again, that is a completely different topic from the original statement you made

[queen_24]

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ok, f9!

[Spiral]

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Ok I don’t think this thread is about BCP.. maybe someone should start Myth and Facts thread. And in all honesty I don’t think anyone here is rejecting the idea of BCP or endorsing it. Its a personal choice. Some people may have seen adverse effects of BCP.. I have. My SIL is extremely sick these days because of a BCP she was taking for her irregular periods. Its all different for everyone. Best thing is to talk to your doctor what is a better choice for you. Lets not tell people to take it because its all good and lets not tell anyone to not take it because it will cause infertility. Let the doctor decide.

Also, I don’t think queen or sweetlady meant it the way everyone here took it. Stating something from personal experience is okay right? As long as they also say that its different for everyone.. its all good.

[diwana]

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Ahem ahem, may I enter?

I am somewhat with Queen here.

It is true that fertility may get affected by hormonal methods of contraception.

Fertility is a complex phenomenon and making hormones imbalance in any person who probably has other unknown reason not to conceive may actually cause further problem.

it is very difficult to predict both fertility and infertility but when something like hormonal disbalance is very much documented with use of OCP then why discard it as a potential harmful factor on fertility?

Anyone who has doubt on delayed fertility or delayed pregnancy after prolonged use of OCP should read or search a little more.

[Moodie_Foodie]

question about concieving

OCP in some cases are used to help regulate a cycle so that women who have fewer periods than the normal lot can actually have a chance at conception. In the cases I have seen, ocp’s are held more responsible for infertility than getting the husband checked out. However, that is a completely different thread. I have seen women who use diff forms of birthcontrol method and can literally get pregnant on their whim and women who use it to regulate cycles and not being able to get pregnant. This is dodgy murky topic and I agree that we shouldn’t pass out what we have seen and heard as the ultimate truth. Btw, when I was having trouble conceiving, someone close did say that I couldn’t conceive because I used birth control and somehow I made Allah angry hence I am being tested and perhaps even responsible for my unfertile self ( not in those words exactly) Theories like that hurt and not only that when I was put on birthcontrol as a treatment, there wasn’t a second I didn’t doubt my doctor or decision to put me on them because all those “opinions” had somehow made home inside my head.

[Gemini_the_Great]

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Queen..Allah ki bandi, what everyone here is trying to tell you that instead of misinforming about bcps you could have just shared your experience about people you may know and not make statements such as..as long as you don’t take bcps, you should be able to get pregnant. That’s all.

And if you can’t have healthy discussion without opening threads complaining about everyone, then why visit forums?

Ps! The rumor is my khala never got pregnant because she took bcps 30 years ago.. But some close family members know its not true..there were problems with her husband, the traveled abroad to sort out the issues but no luck..after all, khala took it all on her.. Yes they have been married for 30 years but not many people even inside the family know the truth and worship her husband for keeping her! That’s our culture due to so much misinformation about the pills! It’s about time to get out of this ignorance!

[Paheli00]

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@suhaina

my recently married couisn husband doesnt want kids for few years and she is very worried about it she heard it is difficult to concieve once you are above 30 or more then 30 and even if u r not above 30 **if initialy u dont try to concieve later u got problems **as our aunty said to her(bad main bacha hone main bohot problems hongi)

it is true or all wrong and false thing?

Suhaina: The part I highlighted in bold is false. There is no scientific evidence that even indicates that if a couple does not try to conceive initially in the marriage, they will have problems later on. Women are generally considered “high risk” once they reach 35. But there are plenty of women (including my own mother) who get pregnant and have healthy babies in their late 30’s. A lot of this also depends on the woman’s individual body (ie. her medical history).

I’m assuming that the aunty giving your cousin advice is not a gynocologist. If I’m right, then please tell your cousin to stop listening to this aunty. The best advice for your cousin is to go visit a gynocologist, have a full check-up, discuss her medical history, and then ask the gyno for medical FACTS regarding this.

[diwana]

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Why would anyone use OCP besides therapeutic use, knowing so many side effects from it?

Basically women take a lot of risk by taking these pills just to avoid unwanted pregnancy.

For short term may be OK, but it is very well known that OCP use for long duration is harmful in many ways besides delaying the fertility after stopping.

[Paheli00]

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^ In my humble opinion, perhaps it would be best to start a separate/new thread for anyone wishing to discuss the pros/cons/risks/reasons etc. for birth control pills so this thread is not derailed further.

Suhaina’s question really doesn’t mention anything about pills or any other form of birth control. She simply wants to know if the things that the aunty is telling her cousin are true…and those things are 1) Difficulty of conceiving once the woman is above 30 and 2) Having problems later if you don’t try to conceive initially after marriage. She hasn’t mentioned anything about the type of birth control her cousin is considering and/or currently taking.

[makd]

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First baby before a woman reach at the age of 30 is advisable by docs. Once the reproductive system has started i. e you deliver first baby then most probably there wont be any issues in conceiving later.

so it is always better to consult your doc before taking any step.

[diwana]

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@Paheli00

^ In my humble opinion, perhaps it would be best to start a separate/new thread for anyone wishing to discuss the pros/cons/risks/reasons etc. for birth control pills so this thread is not derailed further.

Suhaina’s question really doesn’t mention anything about pills or any other form of birth control. She simply wants to know if the things that the aunty is telling her cousin are true…and those things are 1) Difficulty of conceiving once the woman is above 30 and 2) Having problems later if you don’t try to conceive initially after marriage. She hasn’t mentioned anything about the type of birth control her cousin is considering and/or currently taking.

You are absolutely right OP did not talk about the “specific method of delaying the pregnancy” being potentially harmful. But OCP’s ARE used as one of the means to delay pregnacy, hence talking about OCP is not derailing.

What I agreed to Queen post was that she brought very valid point from post #4 that OCP could potentially be harmful in this regard.

If anyone says just delaying pregnancy (regardless of what method is used -Mechanical versus Hormonal) is harmful in future without any scientific or concrete evidence then that person can be wrong.

But specifically speaking, OCP do have potential of disturbing the ability of a woman to conceive.

And delaying enough for any reason may get to the point that woman is far advanced in her age (specific age for her) that she may ‘miss the boat’.

Blanket supporting OCP and discarding their bad effects on fertility (as well as their harmful effects on women) is not what should be the take home message in my humble opinion.

[khattichic]

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Just another side of the coin

Birth Control Pills May Aid Fertility

Women who take birth control pills for long periods of time may find it a little easier to get pregnant once they go off the pill than other women.

A new study shows women who used oral contraceptives for more than five years before attempting to conceive are more likely to have success within six months or a year than women who have never used the pills or took them for a shorter period of time.

Researchers looked at nearly 8,500 planned pregnancies among couples in England during the 1990s. The pregnant women and their partners answered questionnaires about various factors that might have affected their fertility, such as use of birth control pills, age, whether they smoked or drank alcohol, their educational level, height, and weight.

The study found that the longer the women used birth control pills, the more likely they were to become pregnant within six months or a year of stopping use of the pills.

75.4% of the women who had been on the pill for more than five years conceived within six months of trying compared to 70.5% of women who had never used the pill. A similar advantage was found among long-term pill users who took up to a year to become pregnant compared to non-users (89.5% vs. 85.4%).

Although some previous research has suggested that using oral contraceptives may reduce fertility, researchers say those studies only looked at fertility immediately after stopping pill usage. Other studies have shown fertility returns to normal levels within three months, and this study backs up those findings.

Researchers say long-term pill users had the same fertility advantage whether they had previously had a child or not.

Researcher Alexandra Farrow, PhD, of the department of Health and Social Care at Brunel University in Isleworth, UK, and colleagues say prolonged use of birth control pills may have a protective effect on fertility by reducing the damaging effects of endometriosis and improving iron stores in women.

Other factors that were associated with a delay in conceiving in the study were the age of both the man and the woman, the woman’s exposure to cigarette smoke, her level of education and her BMI (body mass index, a measure of weight in relationship to height).

The findings appear in the October issue of the journal Human Reproduction.

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[khattichic]

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^ and in my own personal case, it most certainly did! For women who suffer from endometriosis, PCOS or a combination of both, OCP are necessary to help them conceive..funny, isn’t it?

[diwana]

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@khattichic

Just another side of the coin

Birth Control Pills May Aid Fertility

Women who take birth control pills for long periods of time may find it a little easier to get pregnant once they go off the pill than other women.

A new study shows women who used oral contraceptives for more than five years before attempting to conceive are more likely to have success within six months or a year than women who have never used the pills or took them for a shorter period of time.

Researchers looked at nearly 8,500 planned pregnancies among couples in England during the 1990s. The pregnant women and their partners answered questionnaires about various factors that might have affected their fertility, such as use of birth control pills, age, whether they smoked or drank alcohol, their educational level, height, and weight.

The study found that the longer the women used birth control pills, the more likely they were to become pregnant within six months or a year of stopping use of the pills.

75.4% of the women who had been on the pill for more than five years conceived within six months of trying compared to 70.5% of women who had never used the pill. A similar advantage was found among long-term pill users who took up to a year to become pregnant compared to non-users (89.5% vs. 85.4%).

Although some previous research has suggested that using oral contraceptives may reduce fertility, researchers say those studies only looked at fertility immediately after stopping pill usage. Other studies have shown fertility returns to normal levels within three months, and this study backs up those findings.

Researchers say long-term pill users had the same fertility advantage whether they had previously had a child or not.

Researcher Alexandra Farrow, PhD, of the department of Health and Social Care at Brunel University in Isleworth, UK, and colleagues say prolonged use of birth control pills may have a protective effect on fertility by reducing the damaging effects of endometriosis and improving iron stores in women.

Other factors that were associated with a delay in conceiving in the study were the age of both the man and the woman, the woman’s exposure to cigarette smoke, her level of education and her BMI (body mass index, a measure of weight in relationship to height).

The findings appear in the October issue of the journal Human Reproduction.

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@khattichic

^ and in my own personal case, it most certainly did! For women who suffer from endometriosis, PCOS or a combination of both, OCP are necessary to help them conceive..funny, isn’t it?

I already mentioned about therapeutic use of OCP’s (especially in endometriosis or PCOS)is fine. Nothing new here.

I purposefully did not want to quote a lot of studies which have much more evidence of delaying the pregnancy if OCP’s are used for long duration so the topic does not get too far.

Hence I said earlier that the readers should search a little more.

OCP’s do not cause sterility by themselves. No definite evidence of it.