Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

Are you His prophet? How do you know? Why didn’t you warn the people of Kashmir then?

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

One person came up with a good point. Whoever wrote the article might be biased against farhat hashmi and might be trying to slander her. She might never have said those words. Its quite common for the media to misreport statements and put words in peoples' mouths or change a tone of an issued statement.

On the other hand, from watching some of her lectures on ARY...I do believe that she is quite extremist in her views. The only thing I really have a problem with is sometimes she'll give these lectures without quoting Quran ayahs or Sunnah and explaining how she comes up with her theories. No real scholar will refuse to quote in a lecture or to publish their theories backed up by references.

She definitely does tend to captivate the female audiences. Her lectures on women's issues are overall not offensive to women's lib, from the lectures I have heard. If she's said anything offensive, I haven't heard or seen those lectures.

I do tend to think her niqaab is a bit overdone.

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

PCG - do you think she sounds like a man? I cannot listen to her voice. It is so manly that I cannot digest it. My mother has some of her lectures and from what I've heard from my mother, she has some good stuff to say. She is very conservative (Farhat Hashmi). For example, she is against birth control of all kind. But a lot of women do follow her strictly.

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

Can you tell me any incident from Quran, where Allah (swt) sent his wrath upon a nation and there was no Prophet or Messenger present.

secondly I want to know, what is your understanding of following ayah:

[26:208[/color]] And We did not destroy any town but it had (its) warners,
[26:209]
To remind, and We are never unjust.

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

I didn't know she was against birth control. I heard one of her lectures where she said she is against domestic abuse, and the such.

You know, to be quite honest, I think she's a quack. I think she goes very overboard on some issues, and I don't encourage anyone to follow her. She has a charisma though, and people follow her like blindly devoted followers. Its a bit scary to see how "deewani" some of these girls become after her. People need to learn to evaluate what various scholars say, because each one will say something slightly different from the other. But this idea of teaching people to think for themselves is almost devoid from our Islamic scholars. Its more like "here, this is a code of morality and you must believe it". There is minimal emphasis on evaluating texts on your own, and people leave this up to "scholars" and then blindly believe these people.

Its scary, and Farhat Hashmi is no different from any other scholar that is out and about professing their version of Islam to be the right one.

I'm not saying everything she says is wrong. But I am saying her attitude is dogmatic like most scholars. She's controversial in Pakistan because the mod-crowd is against her since she's so extremist (I wont use the term fundamentalist). She's also disliked by many male scholars mainly cuz she's a woman and she has dared to speak out against abuse and other topics, and because females flock after her and listen to her as if she's a walking Quran.

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

this discussion kicks off after ever hurricane/tremor, and the end result is the same...we all go away cussing the hell out of each other.

Why should it matter what it was. Regardless of what it was, we all believe that it was from Allah and thats all we need to believe in. What the earthquake was, is not a matter of creed..i dont know why people jump to each others throats when someone says its a wrath of Allah, or when someone says we shouldnt say anythings since we dont know what Allah's knows.

Both views are correct IMO; and yeaa..mod mozlems need to show some tolerance.

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

One admits to ignorance, and leaves the matter with Allah. The other arrogantly assumes insight into Allah’s will (with no eveidence other than the occurance of the quake itself)…there’s a lightyear of distance between the two positions…I don’t understand how both could be correct.

Some people are simply content in their ignorance…it would be funny if their attitude wasn’t so disgusting and slanderous.

Re: Quake punishment for ‘immoral activities’: Farhat Hashmi

zer01 if u think that these people had not received the message that was sent with Muhammad (saw) then u r surely mistaken....

there is no messenger to come after Muhammad (saw) and all places where his followers have carried the message sent to him, very well fall under "nations to whom a warner has been sent"....

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farhat hashmi is a great woman..may Allah give muslims more women like her and may end dramas like amina wadood ,asma jehanga,anees and riffat mukkhan..AMEEN