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*Originally posted by A. H. Malik: *
I read once in a book years ago that he was a PARSI.
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Either that book, or your recollection is wrong. Jinnah was not a parsi.
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Either that book, or your recollection is wrong. Jinnah was not a parsi.
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Well, it could be! Maybe I misunderstood something, but I know that his parents or some relatives were PARSI....
Aqeel
His wife was parsi.
I think this clarifies a lot of misconceptions:
http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=165396
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*Originally posted by sokoon: *
bouhat zeyada jouout boulnay key adat per gaei hai.
Quaide Azam's forefather had converted from ismaeli shia to khuja asna ashare shia. Any way they were from the beginning Emamies whether asna ashari or ismaeili .
they were not lawaris and is not lawaris. He has his family members alive , he was a strong believer of his faith being Shia.
He is burried as shia. according to his last day waseyat.
Jouout boul kar jahannum mei jane ka zeyada he shouq hei. Qaide Azam per bohtan laga kar gounna karney sei faeida.
Key ya tum ye samajhte hou ka allah say touba tilla karou ga tou wou maaf kar dey ga. Hergiz nahei. Quaide azam say maafe mangnna hou gey or wou is dounya mei nahe hein.
Kouch jout boul kar zeyada sokon milta hei.
Keya sunni sharab nahe petey, keya moullana quran perhate perhate larkeyoun key bouhat mertaba eizat nahe loutta.
Baat AAQEDEY KEY HOU RAHE THei tum ney tou quaide azam kou sharabi houna ka fatwa dei deya. Yahe tareqa galat hei.
Un ka aqeda along with whole family was shia. tum tou khuda bun beitehay; aamal toul ney lagay un kay.
or jou bei ye kahta hei ka wou shia nahei thai bilkoul khara be eman or jouhta hei.
What about liaqat Ali ? He was also shia, was not he? so was killed. Jab Pakistan bun gaya sheyoun key hard work say tou chalay FAEIDA Udhaney. Sub sheya lougoun kou mar dou. Jahannum bei tou hei, khuda bei tou hei keya serif dunya he dounya hei.
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Give me a break sokoon, you have an axe to grind with sunnis...come out and say it. Mohammad Ali Jinnah was a great leader, yes...was he a devout Muslim (shia or otherwise)? NO. Its not buhtaan, its a known fact, just like you like to believe that he was Shia. So give the guy his due as a great statesman, politician, and leader and stop at that. :)
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Naray waray mar leye , qaide azam kou mar deya
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I did not know that Sunnis killed him...Wow. What a revelation. Sokoon, please enlighten us a bit more with your enchanting knowledge....:)
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*Originally posted by sokoon: *
moullana moudidi(r) bei galat keyoun ka wou shias kou bouhat jagha sahee kah tey thai.
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kyoon molana marhoom ko badnaam kar rahee ho....
he never said that shiaas r right....
he was a wise man and wud not have uttered such misleading comments....
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*Originally posted by armughal: *
he was a wise man ....
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and u obviously aren't!
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*Originally posted by Kaleem: *
I did not know that Sunnis killed him...Wow. What a revelation. Sokoon, please enlighten us a bit more with your enchanting knowledge....:)
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sokoon probably lives in some parallel universe or something, cuz none of her "facts" seem to be true....wallah o alam
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His wife was parsi.
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Actually she converted faisal bhai. We all try to through up what little knowledge we have. but she converted to Islam. Infact the Quaid's daughter married a parsi and he cut her off. I am surprised u guys didnt take that into account. The quaid even told his daughter that if her fiance converted to Islam, like his wife, he would have no problem.
Everything and anything has been said in this thread about the Quaid. WHy is it so hard to simple accept him as a shia when thats exactly what he was.
Well, I said she "was" a parsi, which she was. You may be right, she may have converted to Islam (or reverted, as we say) but I was responding to A.H.Malik who seemed to recall that someone in Quaid's family was parsi.
well whether she reverted or not u would still say she ‘was’ a parsi. I mean shes dead so past tense would be used in any case. You wouldnt say she ‘is’ a parsi to imply she didnt revert now would u? 
So using was doesnt indicate what u meant.
I am right. She did revert.
Good for you. She was parsi at one point. End of story.
lol, she was parsi from the day she was born until the day she died.
she may not have been a zoroastrian her entire life, but ethnicity and genetics cannot be changed. 
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Good for you. She was parsi at one point. End of story.
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yea...that sounds about right for your intellect.
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lol, she was parsi from the day she was born until the day she died.
she may not have been a zoroastrian her entire life, but ethnicity and genetics cannot be changed.
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not quite right I'm afraid. Parsi is a particular sect of the zoroastrian religion. I'm not quite sure if its ALSO a caste but I think in this discusion its quite clear (to most at least) we mean the sect and not the caste.
point being?
Who is what? What is who?
Or the teaching?
What say you?