QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Bring Azhar Ali, Fawad Alam or make Sarfaraz as captain.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Fawad Alam is not a youngster…how about focusing on youngster so captain can play few world cups, not just 1 and career is over

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

If Fawad would play to the age of Misbah than he would play next 3 world cups. :slight_smile:

Actually, there is no batsman in Pakistan line up who is better than Fawad but tassub, parchi, ethnicity, and so on kept him away from Pakistan cricket, and because of that Pakistan suffered too. I think, if Fawad was playing in this world cup, we would have reached Semi Final and possibly could have won the world cup.

If you compare Misbah with Fawad, you will see that Fawad is better than Misbah in all from of cricket (Test, ODI or T20), but I think apart of discrimination, fear of Misbah also kept Fawad out of team, because Misbah was selfish and he felt that if anyone better than him comes into team, he would lose importance, and obviously Misbah damned care about Pakistan.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

In ODI, both average and SR matters, so I think, Pakistan should discard all players in team as batsman from ODis whose multiples (Ave x SR) in ‘list A matches’ is less than 3200 (Ave 40 x SR 80) … or if players has played 10 ODIs in last two year than in ODis multiple (Ave x SR) should be above 3200. It means, to play in Pakistan team, a players should either have high average or high SR … though SR should not be less than 72 at any cost (as such SR is too bad even if average is 100).

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Avg x SR >or = 3200
SR >or = 72
No lower limit on Avg

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Actually, if it is up to me, I would not take a player as batsmen in team with SR below 80 (irrespective of their average), and that also I would do if I have some players in team to compensate them with SR above 120. But having SR 72 is bad compromise (even if player has Ave 44.5 … or … Ave x SR = 44.5 x 72 = 3204). But if no capable players are available, than compromises have to be made.

ODI game is mix of Ave plus SR. In most cases, it is SR that matters most, as long as accumulative Average of players are enough to play 300 balls (well, due to unpredictability of the game, let say 350 balls). In the end, it is SR that would increase the score.

For instance, if team has all players with Average 55 and SR 60 (Ave x SR = 3300) than team on average would make 180 runs in 300 balls, loosing 3 to 4 wickets (due to Average 55).

But if Ave is 33 and SR 100 (Ave x SR = 3300) than it means team on average would make 300 runs in 300 balls losing 9 to 10 wickets (due to average = 33).

It shows that since limited number of balls are available in ODI, a player whose average is 33 and SR 100, is better than player with Ave 55 and SR 60.

For instance: I believe Australia would win this world cup (or should win most of the time with team they have) even though SA and India have players with higher averages, and that is because SR of 7 Australian players are ~90 and 2 have SR above 110 (one have SR 126). Actually, Australian players on average have better SR than any team playing this world cup. So, on average they have more chance of posting or chasing over 300 runs against top class bowlers, than any team in this world cup.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Ideally you should have 3 or 4 batsmen who average 40-45 with a SR of 80-90

If you have too many batsmen who have a SR of 90+ but average just 20-25 (Afridi or Imran Nazir type of crappy players) with the bat you will still struggle to post 300+/- totals in ODIs ona regular basis.

300 is almost the norm these days in ODIs.

Our pace bowling is in good hands but Pakistan seriously need to do something about their woeful catching and substandard batting (arguably the weakest among the top 8 nations)

Batting needs drastic surgery

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

You need one batsman to block.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

You mean, one batsman with average 96 and SR 64?

[Note: Actually, there is one Pakistani batsmen whom many love (I don’t know why). Azhar ali … his average is 41 and SR is 64. Now assume that he has average 96 instead of 41 … an ultimate blocker. On average, he would make 96 runs in 150 balls].

In that case, this duffer would consume 150 balls making his 96 runs (SR 64 in 100 balls), leaving 150 balls for others. If others, all of them have SR 90 than they would make 135 runs in 150 balls. Total would be 135 + 96 = 231 runs.

So, do you think with such scoring capability, any team can win against world top teams who are regularly posting (or chasing) 280 to 300 runs (even 350 runs at regular basis)?

I think with such batting ability, a team would not be able to win even against Zimbabwe or Ireland.

Note: If it was 80s or even 90s than SR 70 was fine, as then, 230 was good score. But cricket overall, and especially ODI, has become batsmen friendly. Today, 300 runs per inning is norm, and thus in this situation, SR < 70 for batsman is crime, even SR = 75 is unacceptable.

A players should either have SR ~ 90, Ave ~ 40 … or SR ~80, Ave 45 … (SR x Ave = 3600) … and below that, can be tolerated if there are no good batsmen available in country.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

But a solid foundation would be laid.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

How would you like solid foundation of 150 runs for no loss?
Good or bad?

Please answer before reading below and than read below and think.

150 runs for no loss in 50 overs? :slight_smile:

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Ask the expert

1st Match: England v India at Lord’s, Jun 7, 1975 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

Beautiful example :).

Actually, in 1975, players were confused between test and limited overs (ODI was new thing). Gavaskar was consolidating the inning thinking that he was plying test match, but when he realised that he was playing ODI, overs got finished (empire nay unglee utha dee, out honay kee nahi, march khatam honay kee). :wink:

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

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One has to be ready to pay any price for solid foundation.

now I Wil read below

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

When I look at the scorecard what jumps out is how slow Brijesh Patel played. He was an attacking batsman.

Re: QF Australia vs. Pakistan 20th March 2015 @ Adelaide (3rd QF)

That was an interesting link. Found an article related to it here: Indian mysticism defies explanation | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

haha..and it has this gem: