Pushing back the Army 3 times the size

last night, on nightly news, brian williams said sth to this effect in this time of pending war....... on one hand is a man who studied to journalism, and is a poet..on the other is a man who was literally weaned in the army, rising to the rank of General ....so you see, when vajpayee makes a statement, his words are backed by words of his generals etc, but not his own perception....but when musharraf speaks, he knows every inch of strength/weakness of his army etc...its not hard to conclude which person is making more authentic remarks...

to me, its pretty clear that the label of aggressiveness that was previously on musharraf's forehead,being an army man et all, has now flown over the border to vajpayees...


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[This message has been edited by isloo_ki_anarkali (edited June 05, 2002).]

isloo isloo isloo! so finally some Paksitani admits Mushy is all alone in Paksitan. This is a good admission. Compare that with the admirable state of affairs where, as you say, the elected PM and the military and the opposition all unite and kickass!

We are pakistani and i Believe that quantity does not matter quality matters , so i think u get the idea.

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A man got to do, what a man got to do

Pakistan is capable of defending herself, and giving the Indian bully’s a bloody nose to remmeber it by. If Indians do blundder into a war, and they will see how irrelevent their size is.

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why pakistanis want to anhiliate their
own"land of the pure" in fightinh 500 million
"beggers"?. do you value your life and the country? afterall pakistan is created for
simple reason muslims wont be dicriminated
and that goal is degenerated in to a cult of
death and destruction.

At the end of the day Mr. Musharaff takes refuge to India handing over the bigbombs(too big for him to handle) and live peacefully for ever in his old home in Delhi.

India,US and UK work hard together to make Pakistan free of terrorists and pakistanis and indians along with their kashmiris live together peacefully.

The Southasia will become a paradise.

WAIT and SEE

Titanic was the state of the art and the biggest thing built at that time. The unsinkable RMS Titanic struck an iceberg and mets its fate. Less ten 3 hrs later it was at the bottom of the ocean.

Get the picture? Size doesnt matter, its the motion of the ocean baby

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source: http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn


I see the eigenvalue in thine eye,
I hear the tender tensor in thy sigh.
Bernoulli would have been content to die
Had he but known such a-squared cos 2(phi)!

– Stanislaw Lem, “Cyberiad”

[This message has been edited by 5Abi (edited June 08, 2002).]

Lets face it ppl it was us who surrendered in bangladesh...i hope tht event doesnt happen again...y the need of a God Damned war...live & let live...ppl threatin 2 use nukes...do they even know wht the circumstances would be...the whole of asia would be in danger...and to stop the effects of a nuclear xplosion v wod have to pay billions to the americanz to use their advanced technology...then i dont see the point in this war...to hell with kashmir...wht is more dear to us kashmir or lahore?..think about it...

[quote]
Originally posted by rvikz:
why pakistanis want to anhiliate their
own"land of the pure" in fightinh 500 million
"beggers"?. do you value your life and the country? afterall pakistan is created for
simple reason muslims wont be dicriminated
and that goal is degenerated in to a cult of
death and destruction.

[/quote]

We are not the one threatening war.

I am still not sure what the issues are in this dispute. I am sure that some how the two countries of India and Pakistan should come to some sort of agreement, even if it is only to agree to disagree, and go on with life.
I relize that is over simplyfying the problem, but I can see no positive outcome, if these two countries go to war. All I see is the possibility of hundreds of thousands of innocent people being killed. I don't understand!!! Am I the only person that worries about this? I worry about people on both sides of the issue. I think about those of you here on the message board that live in Pakistan and India, and the minister and his family that live in India that I correspond with, and the many others that are just like you.
Isn't there any way for a peaceful soulution, are am I just being stupid?
I know it probably isn't a huge issue, but the truth is that no one involved is a pig or a dog. I really don't see how call each other names will help anything. Please remember that regardless of the religion of another, they are human, they are just as important as you are, and God loves them too.

The bottom line is, we are all human beings, and we must share this one planet, and somehow we need to learn to respect each other and live together in peace, and accept the differences in others.

Brenda


Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!!!

[quote]
Originally posted by ArjunMahavir:
Compare that with the admirable state of affairs where, as you say, the elected PM and the military and the opposition all unite and kickass!
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okay here it is without any subtle metaphor

no thought process abt how wars are

fought, relying only on war mongering to boost domestic election ratings

Vs

a life lived among military ranks and been in wars to comprehend what it actually means

capish?


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[This message has been edited by isloo_ki_anarkali (edited June 11, 2002).]

It is not quantity that matters, it is quality. It is clear that Indian has quantity but there is no doubt in my mind that Pakistan's military is of a much better quality. Don't believe me? Read on.

India: Has Russian MIGs - these are reducing in quantity as they are crashed by the IAF. Those planes are no good against what PAF has.

Pakistan: Has American F-16s (they can be - and probably have been - modified to deliver nukes. Pakistan also has the French Mirage-IIIs. Also the f-7s and many more.

Aside from airplanes, I dont know what more India has, but I know that Pakistan's are better.

Pakistan: T-59 tanks, the Talha AV, and the missiles.

FACT!!! India can only (to my knowledge) deliver nukes through ground. But PAF, can midify the f-16s to nuke by air. Lets just hope that it doesn't get to that.